Comments on: A Rant – My Integrity as an Analyst http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:44:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: JHis Biased http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-2/#comment-2227 JHis Biased Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:49:14 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-2227 John Honovich is so hypocritical! This from a guy who was the Milestone Keynote Speaker in 2009! Have you seen how high Milestone ranks in his tests? Did you do the keynote for free John? You paid for your own hotel room and meals while at the Red Rock Casino? ------------------------------------ John Honovich October 9, 2009 at 6:23 pm To eliminate any concerns about vendor bias, how about Gartner eliminate consulting contracts and payments from vendors? I assume this is a naive question. However, such a move would provide the strongest possible financial incentivements and align with end users interest. John Honovich is so hypocritical! This from a guy who was the Milestone Keynote Speaker in 2009! Have you seen how high Milestone ranks in his tests? Did you do the keynote for free John? You paid for your own hotel room and meals while at the Red Rock Casino?
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John Honovich October 9, 2009 at 6:23 pm

To eliminate any concerns about vendor bias, how about Gartner eliminate consulting contracts and payments from vendors?

I assume this is a naive question.

However, such a move would provide the strongest possible financial incentivements and align with end users interest.

]]> By: Tim http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-2/#comment-1964 Tim Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:17:59 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-1964 Avivah Lithan is more than bias…. selecting ac..... is a joke. BTW, ac...is known for using ... Avivah Lithan is more than bias…. selecting ac….. is a joke.
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]]> By: Jim http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-1788 Jim Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:22:03 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-1788 We all know that some analysts at Gartner are extremely bias particularly avivah litan !..give me a break, avivah litan reports about fraud are ridiculous and dishonest (the winner is my friend and we share the same ?.) We all know that some analysts at Gartner are extremely bias particularly avivah litan !..give me a break, avivah litan reports about fraud are ridiculous and dishonest (the winner is my friend and we share the same ?.)

]]> By: Jim http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-1773 Jim Sat, 04 Jun 2011 02:48:26 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-1773 We all know that some analysts at Gartner are extremely bias particularly avivah litan !..give me a break, avivah litan reports about fraud are ridiculous and dishonest (the winner is my friend and we hare the same ?.) We all know that some analysts at Gartner are extremely bias particularly avivah litan !..give me a break, avivah litan reports about fraud are ridiculous and dishonest (the winner is my friend and we hare the same ?.)

]]> By: a http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-1389 a Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:20:09 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-1389 Bottom line: Analysts conclusions are "Subjective" despite the claim of "facts" and "science". - In many cases the analysts might even have a different definition of what the product they are evaluating is (different than what some of the vendor's definition). - Biasing the evaluation by market share, size of marketing budget, etc. rather than pure viability of a technical solution is never a good "scientific" evaluation of a product. - to claim that the money spent by big "names" don;t influence the evaluations is simply not believable. Bottom line: Analysts conclusions are “Subjective” despite the claim of “facts” and “science”.
- In many cases the analysts might even have a different definition of what the product they are evaluating is (different than what some of the vendor’s definition).
- Biasing the evaluation by market share, size of marketing budget, etc. rather than pure viability of a technical solution is never a good “scientific” evaluation of a product.
- to claim that the money spent by big “names” don;t influence the evaluations is simply not believable.

]]> By: What does Gov 2.0 have to do with cloud computing? | Gov 2.0 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-992 What does Gov 2.0 have to do with cloud computing? | Gov 2.0 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:46:30 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-992 [...] his own glass edifices. There is no question that individual analysts there have a great deal of integrity, but would you jump off a Gov 2.0 bridge if Gartner told you [...] [...] his own glass edifices. There is no question that individual analysts there have a great deal of integrity, but would you jump off a Gov 2.0 bridge if Gartner told you [...]

]]> By: Tech co http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-899 Tech co Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:11:11 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-899 We're all flawed human beings, even Gartner analysts. We all have our egos, biases, filters, blinders, whatever you want to call them. I'm sure many Gartner analysts do a great job of being as objective as they can be. However, I also know that at least one that I'm dealing with is being completely unreasonable. Some of the research is completely 180 degrees from what companies are telling us. It's incredibly frustrating knowing that there's little that we can do, since challenging that will just make us seem bitter, pretty much guaranteeing that a biased analyst will never write anything positive about the company. So I bite my tongue. We could theoretically talk to the Ombudsman, but how do we know it won't just have more of the same effect? Meanwhile, the analyst effect is a self-reinforcing loop. Company A is rated highly, and gets more customers. Gartner rates bigger companies better, Company A gets more customers. Company B loses opportunities to Company A because of Gartner ratings, and stays the same size. This makes it easier for Gartner to say "Company B, you're just not big enough." We’re all flawed human beings, even Gartner analysts. We all have our egos, biases, filters, blinders, whatever you want to call them.

I’m sure many Gartner analysts do a great job of being as objective as they can be. However, I also know that at least one that I’m dealing with is being completely unreasonable. Some of the research is completely 180 degrees from what companies are telling us. It’s incredibly frustrating knowing that there’s little that we can do, since challenging that will just make us seem bitter, pretty much guaranteeing that a biased analyst will never write anything positive about the company. So I bite my tongue.

We could theoretically talk to the Ombudsman, but how do we know it won’t just have more of the same effect?

Meanwhile, the analyst effect is a self-reinforcing loop. Company A is rated highly, and gets more customers. Gartner rates bigger companies better, Company A gets more customers. Company B loses opportunities to Company A because of Gartner ratings, and stays the same size. This makes it easier for Gartner to say “Company B, you’re just not big enough.”

]]> By: Bill of Rights for vendor prospects of industry analyst firms » SageCircle Blog http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-767 Bill of Rights for vendor prospects of industry analyst firms » SageCircle Blog Sat, 15 May 2010 13:43:52 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-767 [...] Gartner VP and Distinguished Analyst Tom Bittman (bio, blog, Twitter) has addressed the issue in A Rant – My Integrity as an Analyst along with Gartner Client Ombudsman Nancy Erskine who posted It’s Still True: Gartner Opinion is [...] [...] Gartner VP and Distinguished Analyst Tom Bittman (bio, blog, Twitter) has addressed the issue in A Rant – My Integrity as an Analyst along with Gartner Client Ombudsman Nancy Erskine who posted It’s Still True: Gartner Opinion is [...]

]]> By: My New Year’s Anti-Resolutions for 2010 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-508 My New Year’s Anti-Resolutions for 2010 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:10:09 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-508 [...] I have no problem with people disagreeing or challenging judgements, but I am as insulted as Tom is by offhand, unsupported assumptions that question my integrity. Luckily, I have enough customers [...] [...] I have no problem with people disagreeing or challenging judgements, but I am as insulted as Tom is by offhand, unsupported assumptions that question my integrity. Luckily, I have enough customers [...]

]]> By: What Can We Expect from ECM Analysts? « Word of Pie http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/comment-page-1/#comment-480 What Can We Expect from ECM Analysts? « Word of Pie Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:41:39 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/10/08/a-rant-my-integrity-as-an-analyst/#comment-480 [...] tags: ECM, Forrester, Gartner by Pie There has been a lot of talk the last few months about the integrity, and completeness, of Gartner’s Magic Quadrant reports.  While the lawsuit against [...] [...] tags: ECM, Forrester, Gartner by Pie There has been a lot of talk the last few months about the integrity, and completeness, of Gartner’s Magic Quadrant reports.  While the lawsuit against [...]

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