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	<title>Comments on: Virtual Cloud Privacy is Gray</title>
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		<title>By: The Spectrum of Private to Public Cloud Services</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>The Spectrum of Private to Public Cloud Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] service, or a public cloud service? It’s not quite so binary. I first explored this in my post Virtual Cloud Privacy is Gray a few months ago. There are two relative dimensions that determine how “private” or how [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] service, or a public cloud service? It’s not quite so binary. I first explored this in my post Virtual Cloud Privacy is Gray a few months ago. There are two relative dimensions that determine how “private” or how [...]</p>
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		<title>By: System Advancements at the Monastery &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Recent Cloud Postings</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>System Advancements at the Monastery &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Recent Cloud Postings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bittman brought up the important matter of privacy in his post, &#8220;Virtual Cloud Privacy is Gray.&#8221; Bittman points out that variations of isolation in a cloud computing architecture. When it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bittman brought up the important matter of privacy in his post, &#8220;Virtual Cloud Privacy is Gray.&#8221; Bittman points out that variations of isolation in a cloud computing architecture. When it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trusting the Cloud &#171; Discussing Agile IT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Trusting the Cloud &#171; Discussing Agile IT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Gartner has recently blogged on how potentially complex some of the requirements might be - http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/ ). These agreements need to be very dynamic in nature and to be sufficiently flexible so that they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Gartner has recently blogged on how potentially complex some of the requirements might be &#8211; <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/</a> ). These agreements need to be very dynamic in nature and to be sufficiently flexible so that they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Caughey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Caughey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my mind (and I suspect to Reuven&#039;s also) a &#039;Virtual Private Cloud&#039; is a set of infrastructure, managed by a cloud provider, and fully dedicated to some user. It&#039;s a dynamic hosting solution where infrastructure is assigned and then released on demand. How truly &#039;private&#039; will depend upon how effectively privacy is enforced by the cloud provider i.e. how well the infrastructure is sandboxed off from the rest of the infrastucture under management.

However, as you point out, Thomas, there are many different forms of privacy with the &#039;Virtual Private Cloud&#039; and the *totally* public cloud at the extremes of that spectrum. User&#039;s requirements concerning privacy (and other many other &#039;qualities&#039;) may be in fact be extremely complex (and constantly changing). At Arjuna we think that the key to creating an effective market for the cloud is the ability to capture complex requirements, and the support for sevice agreements that represent contracts between consumers and providers and which deliver a full audit of performance against those requirements. Without the ability for consumers to define what they require, and for arbitration against what is actually available, the cloud will be constrained to support for the particular niche types of services and applications explicitly supported by vendors.

The ability to express their requirements will give cloud consumers a voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my mind (and I suspect to Reuven&#8217;s also) a &#8216;Virtual Private Cloud&#8217; is a set of infrastructure, managed by a cloud provider, and fully dedicated to some user. It&#8217;s a dynamic hosting solution where infrastructure is assigned and then released on demand. How truly &#8216;private&#8217; will depend upon how effectively privacy is enforced by the cloud provider i.e. how well the infrastructure is sandboxed off from the rest of the infrastucture under management.</p>
<p>However, as you point out, Thomas, there are many different forms of privacy with the &#8216;Virtual Private Cloud&#8217; and the *totally* public cloud at the extremes of that spectrum. User&#8217;s requirements concerning privacy (and other many other &#8216;qualities&#8217;) may be in fact be extremely complex (and constantly changing). At Arjuna we think that the key to creating an effective market for the cloud is the ability to capture complex requirements, and the support for sevice agreements that represent contracts between consumers and providers and which deliver a full audit of performance against those requirements. Without the ability for consumers to define what they require, and for arbitration against what is actually available, the cloud will be constrained to support for the particular niche types of services and applications explicitly supported by vendors.</p>
<p>The ability to express their requirements will give cloud consumers a voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoe vaag kunnen we het maken: Virtual Private Clouds &#171; EarlyBert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2009/01/08/virtual-cloud-privacy-is-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoe vaag kunnen we het maken: Virtual Private Clouds &#171; EarlyBert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 9, 2009 by Bert Bouwhuis    Thomas Bittman van Gartner refereert met enige scepsis naar weer een nieuwe kreet in cloud computing land: Virtual Private Clouds. Alhoewel de term door [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 9, 2009 by Bert Bouwhuis    Thomas Bittman van Gartner refereert met enige scepsis naar weer een nieuwe kreet in cloud computing land: Virtual Private Clouds. Alhoewel de term door [...]</p>
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