Comments on: Data Centers, Clouds, Virtualization and Vegas http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/12/03/data-centers-clouds-virtualization-and-vegas/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:31:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jay Fry http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/12/03/data-centers-clouds-virtualization-and-vegas/comment-page-1/#comment-68 Jay Fry Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:53:14 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/12/03/data-centers-clouds-virtualization-and-vegas/#comment-68 Nice keynote, Tom. We (Cassatt) certainly noticed a shift in the types of conversations we had at your Vegas conference this year compared with '07: the RTI idea is making more sense to folks as the cloud computing idea is gaining attention. The cloud concept is simple and compelling and is a starting point to discuss more dynamic and policy-based IT infrastructures. Thanks, Amazon, for putting one of the "first draft" use cases out there (and the Gartner RTI info certainly provides a good framework for discussing/planning what infrastructure can be). The IT ops folks we talked to were definitely thinking through the possibilities of both external and internal/private clouds. Also, your keynote was a great excuse for a little amateur cloud photography, eh? Nice keynote, Tom. We (Cassatt) certainly noticed a shift in the types of conversations we had at your Vegas conference this year compared with ‘07: the RTI idea is making more sense to folks as the cloud computing idea is gaining attention. The cloud concept is simple and compelling and is a starting point to discuss more dynamic and policy-based IT infrastructures. Thanks, Amazon, for putting one of the “first draft” use cases out there (and the Gartner RTI info certainly provides a good framework for discussing/planning what infrastructure can be). The IT ops folks we talked to were definitely thinking through the possibilities of both external and internal/private clouds. Also, your keynote was a great excuse for a little amateur cloud photography, eh?

]]> By: Erik Weaver http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/12/03/data-centers-clouds-virtualization-and-vegas/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Erik Weaver Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:55:03 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/12/03/data-centers-clouds-virtualization-and-vegas/#comment-67 I really enjoyed your comments on “cloudsourcing, and “service brokers”. We have been in this field for several years now and would love to share or experiences. A few things I believe every Cloud expert and data-center should understand. 1. CR-Computational Resources the power of the cloud is to not simply deliver computing power, but bandwidth, memory and storage and CPU power. 2. Obsolesce curve: How long is the resource viable for. 3. Energy consumption and failure rates. 4. Relative vs. Actual cost: A relative rate might be .15 cents an hour to offer resources however no center runs at 100% up time 24/7. Therefore if a center is running at 80% the actual cost is 18.8 cents. We have done work with the likes of MTV to CERN, and currently have over 24,000 cores of HPC resources spread across 4 primary facilities. We are stretching what is possible in the cloud. Again I would love to talk if you are interested. Erik Weaver I really enjoyed your comments on “cloudsourcing, and “service brokers”. We have been in this field for several years now and would love to share or experiences.
A few things I believe every Cloud expert and data-center should understand.
1. CR-Computational Resources the power of the cloud is to not simply deliver computing power, but bandwidth, memory and storage and CPU power.
2. Obsolesce curve: How long is the resource viable for.
3. Energy consumption and failure rates.
4. Relative vs. Actual cost: A relative rate might be .15 cents an hour to offer resources however no center runs at 100% up time 24/7. Therefore if a center is running at 80% the actual cost is 18.8 cents.

We have done work with the likes of MTV to CERN, and currently have over 24,000 cores of HPC resources spread across 4 primary facilities. We are stretching what is possible in the cloud.

Again I would love to talk if you are interested.

Erik Weaver

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