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	<title>Comments on: Virtualization 3.0</title>
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		<title>By: a tale of 2 clouds &#171; David&#8217;s blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>a tale of 2 clouds &#171; David&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and virtualization are not the same as my colleague Tom Bittman writes http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/09/22/virtualization-30/. While virtualization doesn’t mean you have a cloud, it doesn’t mean you don’t have one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and virtualization are not the same as my colleague Tom Bittman writes <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/09/22/virtualization-30/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.gartner.com/thomas_bittman/2008/09/22/virtualization-30/</a>. While virtualization doesn’t mean you have a cloud, it doesn’t mean you don’t have one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things - one, I believe that service brokers (the SIs of cloud computing) will appear to handle the arbitrage - either manually, or eventually programmatically. But also, I believe it is important to avoid conflict of interest in sourcing. Sourcing decisions will need to be made by organizations that span the current customer/provider gap. So, for example, I expect that a new dynamic sourcing team will exist between IT and the business, making decisions whether sourcing internally or externally makes sense. In a perfect world. In the real world, sourcing will be decided sometimes by developers (developing to the Microsoft cloud, for instance), or in some cases by operators (using VMware vCloud, for instance). It&#039;s gonna be messy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things &#8211; one, I believe that service brokers (the SIs of cloud computing) will appear to handle the arbitrage &#8211; either manually, or eventually programmatically. But also, I believe it is important to avoid conflict of interest in sourcing. Sourcing decisions will need to be made by organizations that span the current customer/provider gap. So, for example, I expect that a new dynamic sourcing team will exist between IT and the business, making decisions whether sourcing internally or externally makes sense. In a perfect world. In the real world, sourcing will be decided sometimes by developers (developing to the Microsoft cloud, for instance), or in some cases by operators (using VMware vCloud, for instance). It&#8217;s gonna be messy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Caughey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Caughey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

I agree that alternate sourcing is enabled through virtualization. Initially mapping some virtualized resource (machine, application, application component etc.) onto the physical resources required to support it will occur within the IT department or datacenter. However, federating local infrastructure (a private cloud) with external infrastructure (public clouds) opens up the possibility of competition between public clouds with regard to all aspects of service delivery. Indeed the private cloud will be itself in direct competition with the public clouds and, as public clouds improve their service and reduce their costs, those clouds could eventually replace much, if not all, of the local infrastructure. Here at Arjuna we think this form of arbitrage between clouds will be of great benefit to business but that delivering on this vision requires the ability to dynamically create and maintain effective service agreements between federated clouds. Our product, Agility, attempts to address these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I agree that alternate sourcing is enabled through virtualization. Initially mapping some virtualized resource (machine, application, application component etc.) onto the physical resources required to support it will occur within the IT department or datacenter. However, federating local infrastructure (a private cloud) with external infrastructure (public clouds) opens up the possibility of competition between public clouds with regard to all aspects of service delivery. Indeed the private cloud will be itself in direct competition with the public clouds and, as public clouds improve their service and reduce their costs, those clouds could eventually replace much, if not all, of the local infrastructure. Here at Arjuna we think this form of arbitrage between clouds will be of great benefit to business but that delivering on this vision requires the ability to dynamically create and maintain effective service agreements between federated clouds. Our product, Agility, attempts to address these issues.</p>
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