Comments on: Merb 1.0 For Ruby Emerges. Real Competition For Rails? http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:00:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Weby http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-5870 Weby Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:35:07 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-5870 Hi, Guess what, I have more people asking me of RoR than MerB. That is not to say the features of merb at 1.0 itself are not fantastic. Actually to a developer it is awesome cool. So ,power to Ruby developers Merb or RoR. Regards Weby Hi,
Guess what, I have more people asking me of RoR than MerB. That is not to say the features of merb at 1.0 itself are not fantastic. Actually to a developer it is awesome cool.

So ,power to Ruby developers Merb or RoR.

Regards
Weby

]]> By: Gandhi http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-70 Gandhi Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:07 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-70 Merb : Copyright (c) 2008 Engine Yard Inc. Rails : Copyright (c) 2004-2008 David Heinemeier Hansson I wonder where "close knit community of developers who are evolving the core framework" applies more. Rails has about 1400 contributors so far : http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core/browse_thread/thread/7554c8c5a25b4765 Comparing Merb with Rails is apples and oranges. Rails is a full stack. Merb is a dependency jungle ( it's an actionpack clone ). There is nothing called 'Merb way'. Merb : Copyright (c) 2008 Engine Yard Inc.
Rails : Copyright (c) 2004-2008 David Heinemeier Hansson

I wonder where “close knit community of developers who are evolving the core framework” applies more.

Rails has about 1400 contributors so far : http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core/browse_thread/thread/7554c8c5a25b4765

Comparing Merb with Rails is apples and oranges. Rails is a full stack. Merb is a dependency jungle ( it’s an actionpack clone ). There is nothing called ‘Merb way’.

]]> By: James Stewart http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-65 James Stewart Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:50:51 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-65 I'm primarily a rails developer but have been watching merb for some time and am currently working on my first serious (albeit relatively simple) project with it. As noted above there are quite a few books on their way, but until they hit documentation is scarce and patchy. Getting an app up and running requires quite a bit of time spent between google, the api docs and the merb source, which is likely to put off most potential users. Even having tracked merb casually for a while it's taking me quite a while longer to get this project up and running than my first rails app (just after Agile Web Development with Ruby on Rails). However it turns out, it's about time Rails had serious competition in the ruby framework world. It's interesting that it arrives around the same time that Rails seems to be getting serious about thread-safety and Ruby 1.9. Hopefully the next few months will see us with multiple good options for significantly faster ruby web apps. I’m primarily a rails developer but have been watching merb for some time and am currently working on my first serious (albeit relatively simple) project with it.

As noted above there are quite a few books on their way, but until they hit documentation is scarce and patchy. Getting an app up and running requires quite a bit of time spent between google, the api docs and the merb source, which is likely to put off most potential users. Even having tracked merb casually for a while it’s taking me quite a while longer to get this project up and running than my first rails app (just after Agile Web Development with Ruby on Rails).

However it turns out, it’s about time Rails had serious competition in the ruby framework world. It’s interesting that it arrives around the same time that Rails seems to be getting serious about thread-safety and Ruby 1.9. Hopefully the next few months will see us with multiple good options for significantly faster ruby web apps.

]]> By: Markus Jais http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Markus Jais Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:34:30 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-63 A 3rd Merb book can be found at amazon (to be published 2/2009): Beginning Merb: Replacing Rails with Merb Framework, Datamapper and HAML by Brian Bommarito http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Merb-Replacing-Framework-Datamapper/dp/1430218231/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224660777&sr=1-2 A 3rd Merb book can be found at amazon (to be published 2/2009):

Beginning Merb: Replacing Rails with Merb Framework, Datamapper and HAML by Brian Bommarito

http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Merb-Replacing-Framework-Datamapper/dp/1430218231/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224660777&sr=1-2

]]> By: Jeremy Nicoll http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Jeremy Nicoll Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:41:31 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-59 I love Merb! It's not much to look at yet, but I'm already running one client's site on it: http://myinboxnews.com. I admit that I'm a bit of a control freak, and Rails was always getting in my way. Now that Merb is near the 1.0 mark (it's a pre-release atm, mind you), I've yet had to hack the innermost workings of Merb just to do what I want. I can't say the same thing for Rails. Merb is helpful, but stays out of my way when I need it. I love Merb! It’s not much to look at yet, but I’m already running one client’s site on it: http://myinboxnews.com. I admit that I’m a bit of a control freak, and Rails was always getting in my way. Now that Merb is near the 1.0 mark (it’s a pre-release atm, mind you), I’ve yet had to hack the innermost workings of Merb just to do what I want. I can’t say the same thing for Rails. Merb is helpful, but stays out of my way when I need it.

]]> By: Mark Driver http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Mark Driver Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:35:36 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-53 All, I've purposely refrained from auditing most of the comments on my blog. I'll take your comments good or bad but not ugly. I've deleted the first one today. Suffice to say that comments like... "You are very ignorant. Get your facts straight." from rabid Rails fanboys arent going to make the comments section of this blog. If you think my facts are not accurate then say so but also say why. The alternative is not clever. Its just lazy. m All,

I’ve purposely refrained from auditing most of the comments on my blog. I’ll take your comments good or bad but not ugly.

I’ve deleted the first one today. Suffice to say that comments like…
“You are very ignorant. Get your facts straight.” from rabid Rails fanboys arent going to make the comments section of this blog.

If you think my facts are not accurate then say so but also say why.

The alternative is not clever. Its just lazy.

m

]]> By: Dean Cruse http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Dean Cruse Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:40:50 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-49 We're fans, Mark. It's definitely a small community right now (think Rails 2005), but an awesome group of developers and a great addition to the Ruby eco-system. Our customers tell us they expect Merb to be both an alternative and complement to Rails on many projects. In terms of the framework needing tools, we (of course) agree ;-), and have released our TuneUp (http://tuneup.fiveruns.com) open source app profiling tool for Merb into the community. We’re fans, Mark. It’s definitely a small community right now (think Rails 2005), but an awesome group of developers and a great addition to the Ruby eco-system. Our customers tell us they expect Merb to be both an alternative and complement to Rails on many projects.

In terms of the framework needing tools, we (of course) agree ;-) , and have released our TuneUp (http://tuneup.fiveruns.com) open source app profiling tool for Merb into the community.

]]> By: Zandao http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Zandao Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:55:31 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-48 No "Rails and Ruby community". You have seen Seaside and realized you have to do better if you want to reach real critical mass. No “Rails and Ruby community”. You have seen Seaside and realized you have to do better if you want to reach real critical mass.

]]> By: Dev Blog AF83 » Blog Archive » Veille technologique : Merb, Vim, geode, iPhone, etc. http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Dev Blog AF83 » Blog Archive » Veille technologique : Merb, Vim, geode, iPhone, etc. Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:52:14 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-46 [...] une nouvelle série de liens en vrac : * http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/ : une étude de Gartner confirme que la compétition entre les frameworks Ruby on Rails et Merb va [...] [...] une nouvelle série de liens en vrac : * http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/ : une étude de Gartner confirme que la compétition entre les frameworks Ruby on Rails et Merb va [...]

]]> By: Rails and Ruby community http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Rails and Ruby community Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:02:21 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/10/merb-10-for-ruby-emerges-real-competition-for-rails/#comment-42 No Chekke. Having built the best framework (Rails) ever in the best language ever (Ruby) we had to ask ourselves where do we go from here ?. Naturally we said 'lets build something even better'. With no peers we unfortunately have we have to resort to competing with outselves. No Chekke. Having built the best framework (Rails) ever in the best language ever (Ruby) we had to ask ourselves where do we go from here ?. Naturally we said ‘lets build something even better’. With no peers we unfortunately have we have to resort to competing with outselves.

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