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		<title>By: Contentinople - Ryan Lawler - Reformed Spammer Turns to CDNs With Aflexi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2008/12/19/aflexi-a-new-cdn-aggregator/comment-page-1/#comment-1030</link>
		<dc:creator>Contentinople - Ryan Lawler - Reformed Spammer Turns to CDNs With Aflexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a comment on the Gartner blog post covering his company, Wong admitted that he had worked with certain well-known spammers in the past, but claims that he is reformed and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Whei Meng Wong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2008/12/19/aflexi-a-new-cdn-aggregator/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Whei Meng Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the recommendation, will act on the necessaries.  

As far as the jurisdictional goes, we are drafting the legal agreement (http://www.mintz.com/) with accordance to California state law and it&#039;ll be arbitrated in the US, instead of Malaysia.

And yes, we will definitely uphold to our AUP, and will not hesitate to terminate our contract with the abuser. We are well aware of our federated concept that might put everyone at risk if it is not done correctly; hence we have had internal meeting on evaluating all the risks and already seek for legal consultation to ensure our practice conforms to US legal system. 

Once again, thank you for your suggestions and will keep you posted on new updates!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the recommendation, will act on the necessaries.  </p>
<p>As far as the jurisdictional goes, we are drafting the legal agreement (<a href="http://www.mintz.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mintz.com/</a>) with accordance to California state law and it&#8217;ll be arbitrated in the US, instead of Malaysia.</p>
<p>And yes, we will definitely uphold to our AUP, and will not hesitate to terminate our contract with the abuser. We are well aware of our federated concept that might put everyone at risk if it is not done correctly; hence we have had internal meeting on evaluating all the risks and already seek for legal consultation to ensure our practice conforms to US legal system. </p>
<p>Once again, thank you for your suggestions and will keep you posted on new updates!</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Leong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2008/12/19/aflexi-a-new-cdn-aggregator/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &quot;thorough check&quot; was just a couple of minutes spent on Google searches, for better or for worse. Your SpamHaus listing is the top hit on your name, for instance. And you and your colleagues have public blogs that reveal a lot of personal information -- and you&#039;ve got a public job listing that notes that you&#039;ve got an engineering team size of two, which leads me to guess that you&#039;ve probably got a company of three guys.

You may find it to your benefit to separate your personal and professional identities; in fact, I would recommend it. You probably don&#039;t want potential customers looking you up and seeing your team&#039;s romantic travails, or the other foibles of youth, especially as they touch upon your thoughts on your work lives. For you all, it could be easily accomplished -- Americanize your first names for professional use. I recognize you&#039;ve got a reputation built up on Web Hosting Talk and so forth, but you&#039;ve also got the spammer rep, and it&#039;s easier to build a good rep than to ditch a bad rep.

Because you&#039;ve got the spammer rep (and regardless of whether you do any kind of name jiggering), you are automatically going to draw more scrutiny and smart/cautious people are going to want greater contractual assurances from you.

For instance, if I were your customer, I would certainly want a contractual guarantee that your server software contains nothing more than what you&#039;ve told me it does, and that I have an absolute right to deny any particular content or customer, beyond content-control settings. Spamming is a crime in the United States, not merely an annoyance, and I would want to be absolutely sure that this federated CDN would not in any way shape or form expose my company to illegal activity or any form of liability if a spammer were to try to begin hosting content upon it.

There are jurisdictional issues as well -- your company is based in Malaysia, and I might very well want to ensure that any disputes were arbitrated in my country and not yours, especially if my country has stronger intellectual property protection laws or the like.

I would also want assurances that you would not sell to people who would use the service for something illegal in a particular country or otherwise grey. You&#039;ve shown thus far your scruples are flexible enough that you&#039;re willing to take money from characters who are at best shady, if not downright criminal. A prospective customer of yours ought to weight that accordingly. What you&#039;ve said is that you&#039;re starting a company on a new business model -- not that you&#039;re sorry for what you did or that you are resolved never to do it again, even if it turns out to be profitable. A CDN is potentially very interesting to people walking on the grey side (if not wholly committed to the dark side: distributing child pornography, say). Hosting partners are going to need the absolute guarantee that your AUP enforcements are going to be strict, instant and incontrovertible. 

Good luck; you&#039;ve got an interesting idea. But I think the past may follow you more than you are currently anticipating, especially as you try to move into larger hosting providers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My &#8220;thorough check&#8221; was just a couple of minutes spent on Google searches, for better or for worse. Your SpamHaus listing is the top hit on your name, for instance. And you and your colleagues have public blogs that reveal a lot of personal information &#8212; and you&#8217;ve got a public job listing that notes that you&#8217;ve got an engineering team size of two, which leads me to guess that you&#8217;ve probably got a company of three guys.</p>
<p>You may find it to your benefit to separate your personal and professional identities; in fact, I would recommend it. You probably don&#8217;t want potential customers looking you up and seeing your team&#8217;s romantic travails, or the other foibles of youth, especially as they touch upon your thoughts on your work lives. For you all, it could be easily accomplished &#8212; Americanize your first names for professional use. I recognize you&#8217;ve got a reputation built up on Web Hosting Talk and so forth, but you&#8217;ve also got the spammer rep, and it&#8217;s easier to build a good rep than to ditch a bad rep.</p>
<p>Because you&#8217;ve got the spammer rep (and regardless of whether you do any kind of name jiggering), you are automatically going to draw more scrutiny and smart/cautious people are going to want greater contractual assurances from you.</p>
<p>For instance, if I were your customer, I would certainly want a contractual guarantee that your server software contains nothing more than what you&#8217;ve told me it does, and that I have an absolute right to deny any particular content or customer, beyond content-control settings. Spamming is a crime in the United States, not merely an annoyance, and I would want to be absolutely sure that this federated CDN would not in any way shape or form expose my company to illegal activity or any form of liability if a spammer were to try to begin hosting content upon it.</p>
<p>There are jurisdictional issues as well &#8212; your company is based in Malaysia, and I might very well want to ensure that any disputes were arbitrated in my country and not yours, especially if my country has stronger intellectual property protection laws or the like.</p>
<p>I would also want assurances that you would not sell to people who would use the service for something illegal in a particular country or otherwise grey. You&#8217;ve shown thus far your scruples are flexible enough that you&#8217;re willing to take money from characters who are at best shady, if not downright criminal. A prospective customer of yours ought to weight that accordingly. What you&#8217;ve said is that you&#8217;re starting a company on a new business model &#8212; not that you&#8217;re sorry for what you did or that you are resolved never to do it again, even if it turns out to be profitable. A CDN is potentially very interesting to people walking on the grey side (if not wholly committed to the dark side: distributing child pornography, say). Hosting partners are going to need the absolute guarantee that your AUP enforcements are going to be strict, instant and incontrovertible. </p>
<p>Good luck; you&#8217;ve got an interesting idea. But I think the past may follow you more than you are currently anticipating, especially as you try to move into larger hosting providers.</p>
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		<title>By: Whei Meng Wong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2008/12/19/aflexi-a-new-cdn-aggregator/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Whei Meng Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lydia, I must say you&#039;ve done a real thorough check on us and thank you for the comments, noted ;)

The ROKSO guy listed in Spamhaus is me, but I&#039;m no longer dealing with the guys listed in my profile. Aflexi is my new business that I&#039;m pursuing and do not have intention to look back but learning from the past.

Although we are fresh graduate, we have started working since high school and many relevant jobs. This might affect public perception to us, albeit I must stress that we are in this game for real, and intend to be market leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lydia, I must say you&#8217;ve done a real thorough check on us and thank you for the comments, noted <img src='http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The ROKSO guy listed in Spamhaus is me, but I&#8217;m no longer dealing with the guys listed in my profile. Aflexi is my new business that I&#8217;m pursuing and do not have intention to look back but learning from the past.</p>
<p>Although we are fresh graduate, we have started working since high school and many relevant jobs. This might affect public perception to us, albeit I must stress that we are in this game for real, and intend to be market leader.</p>
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