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	<title>Comments on: Choose Your Process Discovery Method: Model or Measure</title>
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		<title>By: Tapping into Better Practices by Watching Knowledge Workers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tapping into Better Practices by Watching Knowledge Workers</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jacob Ukelson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/05/26/choose-your-process-discovery-method-model-or-measure/comment-page-1/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Ukelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
  Another way to start understanding existing processes is to look at existing unstructured processes in the organization. The problem is that most of these are done via email and documents in an ad-hoc fashion - making automated discovery very difficult, if not impossible.
  One way to move forward is to put a simple amount of structure around those existing unstructured, ad-hoc,human processes that woudl allow for automated discovery -but still let people work as before. 
If anyone is interested, I have written some posts about this in the past in our blog:
http://blog.actionbase.com/in-situ-process-discovery
and
http://blog.actionbase.com/actionbases-third-way-using-an-hpm-to-easily-turn-an-organizations-practical-intelligence-to-explicit-knowledge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
  Another way to start understanding existing processes is to look at existing unstructured processes in the organization. The problem is that most of these are done via email and documents in an ad-hoc fashion &#8211; making automated discovery very difficult, if not impossible.<br />
  One way to move forward is to put a simple amount of structure around those existing unstructured, ad-hoc,human processes that woudl allow for automated discovery -but still let people work as before.<br />
If anyone is interested, I have written some posts about this in the past in our blog:<br />
<a href="http://blog.actionbase.com/in-situ-process-discovery" rel="nofollow">http://blog.actionbase.com/in-situ-process-discovery</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://blog.actionbase.com/actionbases-third-way-using-an-hpm-to-easily-turn-an-organizations-practical-intelligence-to-explicit-knowledge" rel="nofollow">http://blog.actionbase.com/actionbases-third-way-using-an-hpm-to-easily-turn-an-organizations-practical-intelligence-to-explicit-knowledge</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/05/26/choose-your-process-discovery-method-model-or-measure/comment-page-1/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In respect to process modeling I suggest that anyone who plans to do it should check out the new Book by Bruce Silver: BPMN Method and Style, www.bpmnstyle.com. Bruce has a very different take on explaining BPMN based on teaching thousands and thinking hard about how to be clear and concise in modeling business processes.

For analytics and process discovery take a look at the work being done at Einhoven University on the ProM framework, an open source project with a lot of tools in support of process discovery and analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In respect to process modeling I suggest that anyone who plans to do it should check out the new Book by Bruce Silver: BPMN Method and Style, <a href="http://www.bpmnstyle.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bpmnstyle.com</a>. Bruce has a very different take on explaining BPMN based on teaching thousands and thinking hard about how to be clear and concise in modeling business processes.</p>
<p>For analytics and process discovery take a look at the work being done at Einhoven University on the ProM framework, an open source project with a lot of tools in support of process discovery and analysis.</p>
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