Comments on: End to End Processes that Fit You to a “T” http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:21:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: When is T&T Just Dynamite? http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/comment-page-1/#comment-1736 When is T&T Just Dynamite? Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:15:32 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/#comment-1736 [...] http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ [...] [...] http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ [...]

]]> By: What is the Greatest Hurdle Facing BPM? http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/comment-page-1/#comment-1354 What is the Greatest Hurdle Facing BPM? Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:19:51 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/#comment-1354 [...] If BPM sticks to small ideas and scopes to just save time and money while bettering the customer experience, it will be relegated to less than its potential going forward. Expanding BPMs influence to innovative end to end processes that are linked to important value chains will test what BPM really brings to the party. This means that BPM will have to play well in multiple contexts and be plugged into people and information. Please see http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ [...] [...] If BPM sticks to small ideas and scopes to just save time and money while bettering the customer experience, it will be relegated to less than its potential going forward. Expanding BPMs influence to innovative end to end processes that are linked to important value chains will test what BPM really brings to the party. This means that BPM will have to play well in multiple contexts and be plugged into people and information. Please see http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ [...]

]]> By: The Top Five BPM Starting Points Today http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/comment-page-1/#comment-1301 The Top Five BPM Starting Points Today Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:14:15 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/#comment-1301 [...] are my top five BPM starting points, but  be careful not to sub-optimize now and pay later. See http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ How about [...] [...] are my top five BPM starting points, but  be careful not to sub-optimize now and pay later. See http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/ How about [...]

]]> By: Jim Sinur http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/comment-page-1/#comment-1286 Jim Sinur Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:38:46 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/#comment-1286 In order to have a deep and complete architecture linked to processes, you will likely link a EA (enterprise architecture) tool to the implemented process. There are a number of ways of doing this. See http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/03/19/policing-model-synchronization-pros-and-cons/. If you have a light EA need, then you can point to the process instances in something as simple as word document. It depends on your desire for purity. Sub processes implemented in foreign BPMSs will have to be wrapped and invoked. This is because these players are not interoperable through standards yet. There are very few vendors that stick to a pure standards based approach. It would be best to implement in one BPMS to support an end to end process, but not necessary. "T" modeling is a design method and it works independent of interoperability. Again, It depends on your desire for purity. In order to have a deep and complete architecture linked to processes, you will likely link a EA (enterprise architecture) tool to the implemented process. There are a number of ways of doing this. See http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/03/19/policing-model-synchronization-pros-and-cons/. If you have a light EA need, then you can point to the process instances in something as simple as word document. It depends on your desire for purity.

Sub processes implemented in foreign BPMSs will have to be wrapped and invoked. This is because these players are not interoperable through standards yet. There are very few vendors that stick to a pure standards based approach. It would be best to implement in one BPMS to support an end to end process, but not necessary. “T” modeling is a design method and it works independent of interoperability. Again, It depends on your desire for purity.

]]> By: Konstantin http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/comment-page-1/#comment-1285 Konstantin Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:08:28 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/jim_sinur/2009/04/06/end-to-end-processes-that-fit-you-to-a-t/#comment-1285 Couple of questions: in which way a classical BPMS of TIBCO (iProcess Suite) can support alignment of implemented processes with logical modelling and tie it to a much larger Business Architecture? And how sub-processes implemented in say Pega can be handled (managed) by another BPMS like TIBCO? Thanks for clarifications in advance. /Konstantin Couple of questions:

in which way a classical BPMS of TIBCO (iProcess Suite) can support alignment of implemented processes with logical modelling and tie it to a much larger Business Architecture?

And how sub-processes implemented in say Pega can be handled (managed) by another BPMS like TIBCO?

Thanks for clarifications in advance.

/Konstantin

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