Comments on: Some digital immigrants “just don’t get it”, and probably never will

By: Andy Bitterer

Andy Bitterer — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:04:50 +0000

Hey Gene, maybe you should also adopt the term “Digital Ignorants” for those folks that “don’t get it’. Has been working for me

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By: Gene Phifer

Gene Phifer — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:09:51 +0000

The reason that I was trying to quantify this is to attempt to apply scope to the problem. Is it the majority of immigrants or the minority? 10% or 90%?

Personally, I think that the majority of digital immigrants will get it in the next few years. But there will be a visible minority that won’t get it. And I think that Whit is right that even some that don’t get it will allow their companies to adapt. Those that don’t allow adaptation to Web 2.0 will eventually face retribution from customers and employees.

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By: Rohan Thomas

Rohan Thomas — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:18:27 +0000

Correct Gene, these ‘digital immigrants’ are never gonna get it.
David also pointed out that it’s the job of a company to promote good leadership, idyllic, yes, but true.
Often times what I have seen is that it’s the leadership at the top level that don’t get it – and the effort to promote web 2.0 often needs to come from the bottom – which of course doesn’t always succeed.
Whatever the number of these digital immigrants is, I sure hope it decreases for everyone’s sake…

By: David

David — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:27:52 +0000

I’m not sure it’s important to come up with a number of how many people will never get it. It’s kind of like trying to figure out how much water you’ll never drink. You do hit on a very cogent reality: there are people who don’t get it in decision making positions. As someone who is part of the native culture, I run up against these people every day. My time is best spent in trying to make a business case for this cultural behavior rather than trying to figure how how many I’m up against. I find that once you explain ROI, productivity improvement, employee attraction, satisfaction and retention they quickly perk up. When put in terms they understand they shift to the ‘want to get it’ mode, as Whit put it. They may never ‘adapt,’ but they realize they need to enable. That’s really all that’s necessary.

One, last, random observation – there are people who do and don’t get it in every generation, in every company. The job of the company is to promote good leadership that will do what’s best for the company (a little idyllic, I know). Because there is a good business case for the type of cultural behavior you’re promoting, leaders should be responsive.

By: Gene Phifer

Gene Phifer — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:17:14 +0000

The folks I am referring to are digital immigrants because they are citizens of the digital society (vs. the analog society), but they haven’t assimilated culturally to the latest era, Web 2.0.
We are actually working on a research note that identifies classes of digital immigrants, as we believe it is important that enterprises understand the different behaviors and demands of these different demographic groups. Stay tuned.

By: Whit

Whit — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:56:27 +0000

I’m not sure “immigrants” is right, Gene — just for the sake of conversation. (Not that we need new terminology.) I guess what I am thinking is that people immigrate because they WANT to “get it,” and so are much more likely to do so. I immigrated. I used to only like command line interfaces because I thought the GUI stuff distracted one from Real Work. (I may have had a point. We’ll never know.)

What about the “digital internees”? Or something like that — we have roomfuls of people who won’t get it, maybe, or maybe they will — but they have no choice but to deal with it. There is a world of people out there who are, like me, wrestling with this whole cultural shift, and doing so while they’re trying to get their regular jobs done.

I’m trying to understand video, for example, and I have decided to cover Digital Asset Management at Gartner now. I can spend time looking at YouTube and saying, “darn — that’s tough.” But for a lot of these folks, they never immigrated — they just looked up one day and were citizens of an alien nation. That’s hard.