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By: uberVU - social comments

uberVU - social comments — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:42:29 +0000

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By: Peep Küngas

Peep Küngas — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:22:08 +0000

The biggest obstacle in projects, where I have been involved, has been creation, maintenance and usage of service repositories and directories. My experience has shown that even, if an organisation is willing to transfer to SOA, creation of implementation-level meta-information, for instance by means of SA-WSDL model references within service descriptions, is a serious bottleneck. Thus to implement SOA successfully, if you take the traditional approach such as described by Dirk Krafzig, Karl Banke, and Dirk Slama in “Enterprise SOA. Prentice Hall, 2005″, you need experts to provide
meta-information of your services.

By: Thinkovation » Blog Archive » SOA - Dude, it’s alive and kicking

Thinkovation » Blog Archive » SOA - Dude, it’s alive and kicking — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:30:12 +0000

[...] oriented approach to software architecture, design and development can provide. A superbly ironic post by Frank Kenney on the Gartner blog site provides some handy insight, highlighting all the [...]

By: Matt McKnight

Matt McKnight — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:57:38 +0000

SOA is so overblown…can we please stop talking about it as a generality and instead only speak of what it actually means? There’s way too much divergence in what people mean to say whether it is good or bad at a high level.

For me it’s been pretty simple-
Applications should provide running instances of remotely accessible and technology neutral APIs, with a preference towards messaging style asynchronous integration. (as opposed to user interface, shared file, shared database, RPC, or, my favorite, no integration)

Let’s face it- services and soa have always been around. DNS and DHCP are great services in the enterprise. Email is a great service. There are still places where component reuse make more sense than service reuse. Services can introduce a huge level of complexity and interdependence in the enterprise requiring a whole new level of bureaucracy. They can force projects that are otherwise dead to continue to live on because someone out there depends on them.

Your cynical attitude towards “failed SOA” efforts is ridiculous. Failed SOA efforts are because people are asking for too much money to do something simple. By overcomplicating and overselling the idea, Gartner shares the blame of raising expectations that there is some benefit to be gained by doing the Enterprise SOA thing in order to sell more of their product. Enterprises already are service oriented. Get over it and start talking about something that actually increases delivery speed and provides simple application APIs like Ruby on Rails, a technology Gartner nearly completely overlooked, despite the fact that it has flipped the build vs. buy equation for us on several projects already.

By: Blog Xebia France - Revue de Presse Xebia

Blog Xebia France - Revue de Presse Xebia — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:17:07 +0000

[...] aujourd’hui avec l’autre évangéliste de SOA, le Gartner Group, qui nous gratifie de Ahh Shucks, SOA Is A Failure (Frank Kenney). À croire que le Gartner Group s’applique son célèbre Hype cycle et, après avoir loué [...]

By: Die perfekte Entschuldigung für geplatzte SOA-Projekte at SOA meets BPM

Die perfekte Entschuldigung für geplatzte SOA-Projekte at SOA meets BPM — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:45:31 +0000

[...] Gartner-Analyst Frank Kenney die häufigsten Gründe für gescheiterte SOA-Vorhaben auf. In einem Blog-Eintrag formuliert er einen fiktiven Entschuldigungsbrief, den Projektverantwortlichen nur kopieren und [...]

By: moebius recursive » Ahh Shucks, Gartner Is A Failure (Again)

moebius recursive » Ahh Shucks, Gartner Is A Failure (Again) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:23:09 +0000

[...] is becoming routine to see baiting headlines like Gartner’s latest on SOA Is A Failure. Suitably, this puff piece was delivered by the king of the [...]

By: Structured Methods : HR Interoperability Links - 2008-11-21

Structured Methods : HR Interoperability Links - 2008-11-21 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:43:04 +0000

[...] Ahh Shucks, SOA Is A Failure A letter from a fictional enterprise architect. Despite all of the things I have NOT done, SOA has failed. My additional failure to recognize and implement best practices that have been proven successful in many other companies worldwide also play into the failure of SOA. [...]

By: Totto

Totto — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:36:08 +0000

Perfect postscript to “The laws of SOA” – I hope you don´t mind us quoting this fantastic post here: http://wiki.community.objectware.no/display/OWSOA/The+Laws+of+SOA

By: Application Architecture, Development & Integration » Blog Archive » Business Alignment, Strategy & SOA

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:34:45 +0000

[...] One of the oldest adages about application success or failure is that it hinges on being closely aligned with the business. Ironically, even though people have been saying this for decades, many organizations still fail at lining up closely with the business. It seems that every new approach to applications gives us yet another chance to get this wrong – SOA is no different! (See Frank Kenney’s SOA Failure post) [...]