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	<title>Comments on: Agile &#8211; The end of the beginning</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Kennaley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_norton/2009/08/26/agile-the-end-of-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kennaley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I have followed Gartner&#039;s work following the Agile movement for some time.  Our consultants have been thinking about the evolution beyond the current &quot;brand&quot; and where modern software engineering is headed.  We have stood up a blog called &quot;SDLC 3.0&quot;.  

www.fourth-medium.com/wordpress

Would love your feedback.  We are actively discussing topics such as systems dynamics and leveraging PID control theory to take Agile beyond the trough of disillusionment as you folks say.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I have followed Gartner&#8217;s work following the Agile movement for some time.  Our consultants have been thinking about the evolution beyond the current &#8220;brand&#8221; and where modern software engineering is headed.  We have stood up a blog called &#8220;SDLC 3.0&#8243;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fourth-medium.com/wordpress" rel="nofollow">http://www.fourth-medium.com/wordpress</a></p>
<p>Would love your feedback.  We are actively discussing topics such as systems dynamics and leveraging PID control theory to take Agile beyond the trough of disillusionment as you folks say.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Slobojan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_norton/2009/08/26/agile-the-end-of-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Slobojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a note, Alistair&#039;s keynote from Agile 2009 was videotaped and put on InfoQ.com at http://www.infoq.com/presentations/cockburn-bury-not-praise-agile for those that are interested in watching it.

[full disclosure - I am the Chief Editor of InfoQ.com]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a note, Alistair&#8217;s keynote from Agile 2009 was videotaped and put on InfoQ.com at <a href="http://www.infoq.com/presentations/cockburn-bury-not-praise-agile" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoq.com/presentations/cockburn-bury-not-praise-agile</a> for those that are interested in watching it.</p>
<p>[full disclosure - I am the Chief Editor of InfoQ.com]</p>
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		<title>By: David Norton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_norton/2009/08/26/agile-the-end-of-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>David Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a pleasure to be at Agile 2009, so much going on – great buzz. For me the big takeaway is we have turned a corner. And whether we call it Agile 2.0, Adaptive or super agile (I am joking before any ones blogs that one) we are dealing with considerably larger beast than before.  

Having attended some of the fringe sessions on complexity, set based design and systems engineering I am betting we see an amalgamation of adaptive systems theory, agile and lean. 

I will go out on a limb and give it a name System Centric Adaptive Development, but more on that in later blogs and research paper’s. 

Will be interesting to see how the agile community reacts over the next 18 months now the bar has been raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a pleasure to be at Agile 2009, so much going on – great buzz. For me the big takeaway is we have turned a corner. And whether we call it Agile 2.0, Adaptive or super agile (I am joking before any ones blogs that one) we are dealing with considerably larger beast than before.  </p>
<p>Having attended some of the fringe sessions on complexity, set based design and systems engineering I am betting we see an amalgamation of adaptive systems theory, agile and lean. </p>
<p>I will go out on a limb and give it a name System Centric Adaptive Development, but more on that in later blogs and research paper’s. </p>
<p>Will be interesting to see how the agile community reacts over the next 18 months now the bar has been raised.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Martens</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_norton/2009/08/26/agile-the-end-of-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Martens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Thanks for the supporting color on Alistair&#039;s talk at Agile 2009.  I imagine you will have some good color on the whole show after watching how busy you were this week.  It was great to have you and your firm in person at the event this year.

I assume you and your firm along with IBM, HP and Microsoft may have a hand helping to shape agile as it enters the mainstream and it gets new emerging challengers.  New innovations currently bubbling certainly include Lean/Kanban, and Behavior Driven Development.

I am very glad to have you in the kitchen with us all as we try to advance our industry.  It was a pleasure to meet in person this last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Thanks for the supporting color on Alistair&#8217;s talk at Agile 2009.  I imagine you will have some good color on the whole show after watching how busy you were this week.  It was great to have you and your firm in person at the event this year.</p>
<p>I assume you and your firm along with IBM, HP and Microsoft may have a hand helping to shape agile as it enters the mainstream and it gets new emerging challengers.  New innovations currently bubbling certainly include Lean/Kanban, and Behavior Driven Development.</p>
<p>I am very glad to have you in the kitchen with us all as we try to advance our industry.  It was a pleasure to meet in person this last week.</p>
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