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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Open Cloud Manifesto&#8221; or &#8220;Private Cloud Manifesto&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_m_smith/2009/03/28/open-cloud-manifesto-or-private-cloud-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to say that IBM is playing dirty here... Reuven seems to be in their back pocket!  

http://cloudstoragestrategy.com/2009/03/the-open-cloud-manifesto-non-controversy.html

What a joke!

You are right to call it &quot;private cloud manifesto&quot; !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say that IBM is playing dirty here&#8230; Reuven seems to be in their back pocket!  </p>
<p><a href="http://cloudstoragestrategy.com/2009/03/the-open-cloud-manifesto-non-controversy.html" rel="nofollow">http://cloudstoragestrategy.com/2009/03/the-open-cloud-manifesto-non-controversy.html</a></p>
<p>What a joke!</p>
<p>You are right to call it &#8220;private cloud manifesto&#8221; !</p>
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		<title>By: Irregular Enterprise mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_m_smith/2009/03/28/open-cloud-manifesto-or-private-cloud-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Irregular Enterprise mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How many times do you get the chance to communicate directly with the CTO of a meg-vendor? Yet it would seem that no-one among the SAP community of 1.4 million coders and 300,000 business process people are that interested. Perhaps the best clue comes from Gartner&#039;s David Smith: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How many times do you get the chance to communicate directly with the CTO of a meg-vendor? Yet it would seem that no-one among the SAP community of 1.4 million coders and 300,000 business process people are that interested. Perhaps the best clue comes from Gartner&#8217;s David Smith: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Johnston</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_m_smith/2009/03/28/open-cloud-manifesto-or-private-cloud-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;d already pointed out that there were half a dozen references to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Types&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;private cloud fringe theory&lt;/a&gt; in the leaked manifesto, now that the embargo has lifted an old version (1.0.4) has appeared and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://samj.net/2009/03/manifesto-embargo-lifted-google-dropped.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;revision history&lt;/a&gt; is revealing.

As it turns out, not only were standards provisions neutered and advantages trimmed back to allow for &quot;I can&#039;t believe it&#039;s not cloud&quot; wares, but the definition was revised accordingly.

All in all it seems we were right in that it is a &quot;Private Cloud Manifesto&quot; - but any catalyst that gets the ball rolling is fine by me.

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;d already pointed out that there were half a dozen references to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Types" rel="nofollow">private cloud fringe theory</a> in the leaked manifesto, now that the embargo has lifted an old version (1.0.4) has appeared and the <a href="http://samj.net/2009/03/manifesto-embargo-lifted-google-dropped.html" rel="nofollow">revision history</a> is revealing.</p>
<p>As it turns out, not only were standards provisions neutered and advantages trimmed back to allow for &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s not cloud&#8221; wares, but the definition was revised accordingly.</p>
<p>All in all it seems we were right in that it is a &#8220;Private Cloud Manifesto&#8221; &#8211; but any catalyst that gets the ball rolling is fine by me.</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: The Open Cloud Manifesto: This has all happened before&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_m_smith/2009/03/28/open-cloud-manifesto-or-private-cloud-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>The Open Cloud Manifesto: This has all happened before&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] control begins to increase. Vendors take sides and user organizations follow suite. My colleague David Smith wrote a post on what the motivations of the players are in the cloud computing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] control begins to increase. Vendors take sides and user organizations follow suite. My colleague David Smith wrote a post on what the motivations of the players are in the cloud computing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david m smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_m_smith/2009/03/28/open-cloud-manifesto-or-private-cloud-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>david m smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

thanks for providing the link.

as for the categorizations, i meant it to be of vendor driven standards efforts.  as for the core web standards, they arent driven that way, but part of the original web, mostly.  but there are other types of standards that come as a result of open source and de facto use as well,  i was just trying to classify vendor driven initiatives.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>thanks for providing the link.</p>
<p>as for the categorizations, i meant it to be of vendor driven standards efforts.  as for the core web standards, they arent driven that way, but part of the original web, mostly.  but there are other types of standards that come as a result of open source and de facto use as well,  i was just trying to classify vendor driven initiatives.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Gall</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/david_m_smith/2009/03/28/open-cloud-manifesto-or-private-cloud-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Gall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

The set of core Web standards (HTTP, HTML, and URL) doesn&#039;t seem to fall into either category. Does it?

Also, the link you provide is NOT to the actual draft manifesto. You can find a link to the PDF here: http://gevaperry.typepad.com/main/2009/03/the-open-cloud-manifesto-much-ado-about-nothing.html .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>The set of core Web standards (HTTP, HTML, and URL) doesn&#8217;t seem to fall into either category. Does it?</p>
<p>Also, the link you provide is NOT to the actual draft manifesto. You can find a link to the PDF here: <a href="http://gevaperry.typepad.com/main/2009/03/the-open-cloud-manifesto-much-ado-about-nothing.html" rel="nofollow">http://gevaperry.typepad.com/main/2009/03/the-open-cloud-manifesto-much-ado-about-nothing.html</a> .</p>
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