Comments on: Just a Thought; Will VMware become the next Novell? http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/ A Member of the Gartner Blog Network Fri, 20 May 2011 17:37:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Wird VMware das gleiche Schicksal ereilen wie Novell? « Business Ready Blog http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Wird VMware das gleiche Schicksal ereilen wie Novell? « Business Ready Blog Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:26:54 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-170 [...] Microsoft, Trends. trackback Diese provozierende Frage stellte Gartner Analyst David Cappuccio in seinem jüngsten Blogpost. Nicht irgendwo unter ferner liefen wohlgemerkt, sondern im Titel. Und wenn es dort heißt: [...] [...] Microsoft, Trends. trackback Diese provozierende Frage stellte Gartner Analyst David Cappuccio in seinem jüngsten Blogpost. Nicht irgendwo unter ferner liefen wohlgemerkt, sondern im Titel. Und wenn es dort heißt: [...]

]]> By: Ray Mann http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Ray Mann Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:33:06 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-152 Interesting article. But I don't find the technology itself is the driver, but rather the add on killer app... VHS vs Beta, VHS one because the porn industry was using it. Windows vs Novell, Windows one all the development tools MS was giving away made for many 3rp party products. VM vs Hyper-V, where is the killer app? Currently a ton of 3rp party product for managing VM, not so many for Hyper-V (useful ones that is). I don't really see the killer App here (except Amazon or Google in the long run with their cloud offerings). Microsoft has been lucky to have only one point of attack in the past. OS wars = Windows won, App wars = MS Office won, email server wars =exchange won. But today it seems many fronts at once, web browser wars are back, OS is getting a challenge for the money, Office is getting new challenges (Google, SUN/Oracle). Even servers with these app appliance and cloud systems... Many fronts at one time... Not sure if the winner will be Microsoft this time on all fronts. Kind of hard to fight 5 battles at once... Either way with the VM world, portability is key. You can bet that any investment in development of VMware environment will not be a complete loss. The VM servers will be ported to the winner platform whomever it may be. Interesting article. But I don’t find the technology itself is the driver, but rather the add on killer app… VHS vs Beta, VHS one because the porn industry was using it. Windows vs Novell, Windows one all the development tools MS was giving away made for many 3rp party products. VM vs Hyper-V, where is the killer app? Currently a ton of 3rp party product for managing VM, not so many for Hyper-V (useful ones that is).

I don’t really see the killer App here (except Amazon or Google in the long run with their cloud offerings). Microsoft has been lucky to have only one point of attack in the past. OS wars = Windows won, App wars = MS Office won, email server wars =exchange won. But today it seems many fronts at once, web browser wars are back, OS is getting a challenge for the money, Office is getting new challenges (Google, SUN/Oracle). Even servers with these app appliance and cloud systems… Many fronts at one time… Not sure if the winner will be Microsoft this time on all fronts. Kind of hard to fight 5 battles at once…

Either way with the VM world, portability is key. You can bet that any investment in development of VMware environment will not be a complete loss. The VM servers will be ported to the winner platform whomever it may be.

]]> By: VMware ESXi (Free) - FlyerTalk Forums http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-141 VMware ESXi (Free) - FlyerTalk Forums Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:21:41 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-141 [...] much zero differentiating value value now. Which is exactly why you see articles such as "Will VMware become the next Novell?". VMware charges a premium for its hypervisor and has absolutely no management story for the [...] [...] much zero differentiating value value now. Which is exactly why you see articles such as "Will VMware become the next Novell?". VMware charges a premium for its hypervisor and has absolutely no management story for the [...]

]]> By: sendro http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-53 sendro Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:48:14 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-53 It really is hard to know w; I was going to buy some shares - but now I don't know. I say forget both products and go with kvm. :) It really is hard to know w; I was going to buy some shares – but now I don’t know. I say forget both products and go with kvm. :)

]]> By: T http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-49 T Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:42:23 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-49 Great article. However, you forgot to mention Netscape's 95% market share and what microsoft's free IE did to it. Great article. However, you forgot to mention Netscape’s 95% market share and what microsoft’s free IE did to it.

]]> By: Yusuf Ozturk http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Yusuf Ozturk Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:24:18 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-46 I still waiting for Linux support from Hyper-V. Hyper-v is the best virtualization product for Windows Machines but I don't say same for Linux. Today, We use VMWare because it's good in Linux and has better managment compares the others like Xen. Also paying nothing for Windows in Hyper-v is another advantage. If Microsoft cares more about Linux and Hyper-v supports it, VMWare will lose so many users or VMWare becomes free product. But as you know, SCVMM needs VMWare suit to manage VMWare servers. I mean, there is no way to manage VMWare from SCVMM freely. I still waiting for Linux support from Hyper-V. Hyper-v is the best virtualization product for Windows Machines but I don’t say same for Linux. Today, We use VMWare because it’s good in Linux and has better managment compares the others like Xen. Also paying nothing for Windows in Hyper-v is another advantage. If Microsoft cares more about Linux and Hyper-v supports it, VMWare will lose so many users or VMWare becomes free product. But as you know, SCVMM needs VMWare suit to manage VMWare servers. I mean, there is no way to manage VMWare from SCVMM freely.

]]> By: Celebrity Deathmatch: Canonical/Ubuntu Vs Google « DrDan’s Blog http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Celebrity Deathmatch: Canonical/Ubuntu Vs Google « DrDan’s Blog Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:27:31 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-45 [...] VMware Vs Microsoft [Thoughts from Dave Cappuccio of Gartner] [...] [...] VMware Vs Microsoft [Thoughts from Dave Cappuccio of Gartner] [...]

]]> By: Roland Wartenberg http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Roland Wartenberg Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:05:39 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-44 Hi, this is an interesting article, indeed. Being active now in the virtualization area for SAP since a couple of years i hear this 'Vmware will be gone when Microsoft gets more active in the virtualization market' every couple of months again and again. And i don't think that we will see the 'Netscape Microsoft' or 'Novell Microsoft' story again. 2-3 years ago when Hyper-V was not yet out there VMware ESX had a clear advantage, from a technology point of view, compared to MS Virtual Server, although it wasn't 100% bug-free neither. When the stand-alone version of Hyper-V was released in October 2008 it looked like that Microsoft is able to catch up with VMware. But now, with vSphere, VMware seems to be ahead in the leading position again. And at the end of the day all hypervisors, talking about the simple basic functionality, are free of charge. So where is the competitive advantage? Why should customers switch from VMware to Microsoft or vice versa? I think the decision will be done on the scenario level, so what you can do with the hypervisor and other products around HA, disaster recovery, easy deployment of dev/test/training systems etc. etc. It's not about the technology anymore. And of course it's about the cloud, where virtualization technology can help to connect public and private clouds using e.g. virtual appliance models. VMware's vCloud initiative and Microsoft's Azure are both targeting this market. So, Will VMware become the next Novell? I don't think so, but i also belive that VMware will not keep his +90% marketshare forever. Competition is good for the market, and it's good for our customers. Best regards, Roland Wartenberg Green IT Evangelist SAP Hi,

this is an interesting article, indeed. Being active now in the virtualization area for SAP since a couple of years i hear this ‘Vmware will be gone when Microsoft gets more active in the virtualization market’ every couple of months again and again. And i don’t think that we will see the ‘Netscape Microsoft’ or ‘Novell Microsoft’ story again.

2-3 years ago when Hyper-V was not yet out there VMware ESX had a clear advantage, from a technology point of view, compared to MS Virtual Server, although it wasn’t 100% bug-free neither. When the stand-alone version of Hyper-V was released in October 2008 it looked like that Microsoft is able to catch up with VMware. But now, with vSphere, VMware seems to be ahead in the leading position again. And at the end of the day all hypervisors, talking about the simple basic functionality, are free of charge. So where is the competitive advantage? Why should customers switch from VMware to Microsoft or vice versa?

I think the decision will be done on the scenario level, so what you can do with the hypervisor and other products around HA, disaster recovery, easy deployment of dev/test/training systems etc. etc. It’s not about the technology anymore.

And of course it’s about the cloud, where virtualization technology can help to connect public and private clouds using e.g. virtual appliance models. VMware’s vCloud initiative and Microsoft’s Azure are both targeting this market.

So, Will VMware become the next Novell? I don’t think so, but i also belive that VMware will not keep his +90% marketshare forever. Competition is good for the market, and it’s good for our customers.

Best regards,

Roland Wartenberg
Green IT Evangelist
SAP

]]> By: VMware, the next Novell!? « DeinosCloud http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-43 VMware, the next Novell!? « DeinosCloud Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:52:53 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-43 [...] this article at Realtime-windowsserver.com! On the same subject there is another article: “Just a Thought; Will VMware become the next Novell?” that is worth [...] [...] this article at Realtime-windowsserver.com! On the same subject there is another article: “Just a Thought; Will VMware become the next Novell?” that is worth [...]

]]> By: Oliver Leach http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Oliver Leach Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:12:46 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/david_cappuccio/2009/06/30/just-a-thought-will-vmware-become-the-next-novell/#comment-42 I believe Microsoft will become competitive in the virtualisation market although one of the big head starts that VMware have is the fact they rushed their product to market with ESX3.0 three years ago. It was riddled with bugs and in my opinion was not really stable until 3.02. I've dealt with purple screens, virtual network switches dropping, management GUI issues, SAN incompatibilites and the likes. By rushing the product to market they managed to get a huge share of the market and an enormous amount of interest from the general public. The platform is now bullet proof, robust and easy to manage and many many environments are going with VMware as their preferred choice. I can see however that maybe in 5 years or more, Microsoft will become on par with all main stream virtualisation products and slowly, bit by bit their Hyper V product will start to grab some of the market share and could become the preferred virtualisation choice. Wherever you go you find Microsoft products in every computer network, whether it be server, desktop or applications. This is Microsofts biggest advantage and why they will tighten the grip of the virtualisation market. There is no other server operating system that can really challenge the Windows Server products - I do take linux OS's into consideration here as really it's not an OS to challenge the Windows Server Product taking in to account the LAN management components. And therefore when you have so much of Microsoft around in your environment as standard one day may think that Hyper V should be the standard aswell and therefore will become the preferred choice. It's interesting you mention Netware here but you only have to look at Novell's Groupwise email system and how many companies have now moved to Exchange.. It could be the same with Hyper V but not yet. Enjoy it whilst it lasts and I'm one of your biggest VMware fans. I believe Microsoft will become competitive in the virtualisation market although one of the big head starts that VMware have is the fact they rushed their product to market with ESX3.0 three years ago. It was riddled with bugs and in my opinion was not really stable until 3.02. I’ve dealt with purple screens, virtual network switches dropping, management GUI issues, SAN incompatibilites and the likes. By rushing the product to market they managed to get a huge share of the market and an enormous amount of interest from the general public. The platform is now bullet proof, robust and easy to manage and many many environments are going with VMware as their preferred choice. I can see however that maybe in 5 years or more, Microsoft will become on par with all main stream virtualisation products and slowly, bit by bit their Hyper V product will start to grab some of the market share and could become the preferred virtualisation choice. Wherever you go you find Microsoft products in every computer network, whether it be server, desktop or applications. This is Microsofts biggest advantage and why they will tighten the grip of the virtualisation market. There is no other server operating system that can really challenge the Windows Server products – I do take linux OS’s into consideration here as really it’s not an OS to challenge the Windows Server Product taking in to account the LAN management components. And therefore when you have so much of Microsoft around in your environment as standard one day may think that Hyper V should be the standard aswell and therefore will become the preferred choice. It’s interesting you mention Netware here but you only have to look at Novell’s Groupwise email system and how many companies have now moved to Exchange.. It could be the same with Hyper V but not yet. Enjoy it whilst it lasts and I’m one of your biggest VMware fans.

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