Comments on: Can the Cloud Return Us to Growth? http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:32:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Alok Misra http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-325 Alok Misra Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:12:16 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-325 Hi Daryl, Good point, once again. I agree with you about "aspiring to something more than just an incremental technology evolution led by IT." It's very interesting that most organizations that come to Navatar Group for help, usually ask two questions. 1) Is Force.com a good fit for my app 2) How much would it cost to move our product into the Cloud They go against our advice to re-evaluate their customer segments, what their customers would want, the new possibilities in the cloud, their financial model and their ability to change. Seems like there's some work to be done in educating these organizations. Or, maybe, it will take an innovator like Henry Ford to actually show everyone what the possibilities can be. In any event, I admire the good work that you're doing. Regards Alok Misra, Principal Navatar Group Blog: www.navatarforce.com Hi Daryl,

Good point, once again. I agree with you about “aspiring to something more than just an incremental technology evolution led by IT.” It’s very interesting that most organizations that come to Navatar Group for help, usually ask two questions.

1) Is Force.com a good fit for my app
2) How much would it cost to move our product into the Cloud

They go against our advice to re-evaluate their customer segments, what their customers would want, the new possibilities in the cloud, their financial model and their ability to change. Seems like there’s some work to be done in educating these organizations. Or, maybe, it will take an innovator like Henry Ford to actually show everyone what the possibilities can be.

In any event, I admire the good work that you’re doing.

Regards

Alok Misra, Principal
Navatar Group
Blog: http://www.navatarforce.com

]]> By: Daryl Plummer http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-311 Daryl Plummer Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:14:07 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-311 Naithan wrote My response is that cloud maturity has to be viewed in terms of what part of cloud compting you are interested in. The maturity of cloud services that require trust but that have no governance will lag that of services that fulfill individual or group needs that govern themselves or do not require a lot of trust. In EDU, you have more people monitoring each other and therefore more governance. I agree with your thesis. Naithan wrote

My response is that cloud maturity has to be viewed in terms of what part of cloud compting you are interested in. The maturity of cloud services that require trust but that have no governance will lag that of services that fulfill individual or group needs that govern themselves or do not require a lot of trust. In EDU, you have more people monitoring each other and therefore more governance. I agree with your thesis.

]]> By: Daryl Plummer http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-310 Daryl Plummer Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:11:10 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-310 Please do share the post. Please do share the post.

]]> By: Staying nimble – enterprise cloud adoption | Edge of the Cloud http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Staying nimble – enterprise cloud adoption | Edge of the Cloud Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:45:42 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-289 [...] terms of trust around security and vendor lock-in, there’s clear potential in the enterprise – driving new revenue streams, outsourcing IT services, and the reconciliation of traditional SOA with the cloud and other IT [...] [...] terms of trust around security and vendor lock-in, there’s clear potential in the enterprise – driving new revenue streams, outsourcing IT services, and the reconciliation of traditional SOA with the cloud and other IT [...]

]]> By: Going to the Cloud - the Agile Way | Agile Blog: Scaling Software Agility http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-285 Going to the Cloud - the Agile Way | Agile Blog: Scaling Software Agility Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:39:53 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-285 [...] Daryl Plummer from Gartner also did a great job recently describing the real point of cloud computing as he reviews Russ Daniels recent Forbes article. Russ says: [...] [...] Daryl Plummer from Gartner also did a great job recently describing the real point of cloud computing as he reviews Russ Daniels recent Forbes article. Russ says: [...]

]]> By: Naithan http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Naithan Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:54:51 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-284 Daryl, what are your thoughts on the maturity models for cloud? The reason why enterprise seems to have a difficulty in planning for cloud is because of inability to measure and manage it. My theory is (for a myriad of reasons) that clouds usefulness and applications will mature in the .edu first and not enterprise. What say you? Daryl, what are your thoughts on the maturity models for cloud? The reason why enterprise seems to have a difficulty in planning for cloud is because of inability to measure and manage it. My theory is (for a myriad of reasons) that clouds usefulness and applications will mature in the .edu first and not enterprise. What say you?

]]> By: Daryl Plummer http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-283 Daryl Plummer Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:08:22 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-283 Absolutely! Thanks for the comment. We have to separate the contenders from the pretenders. Absolutely! Thanks for the comment. We have to separate the contenders from the pretenders.

]]> By: Ryan Martens http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/2009/05/24/can-the-cloud-return-us-to-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-282 Ryan Martens Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:26:02 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/daryl_plummer/?p=140#comment-282 Thanks Daryl for point this one out. The cloud pitches, webinars and conferences are getting so numerous that the noise is deafening. This is a vision to hold for IT as we need to enable some amazing innovation in the way we live on this planet. Thanks Daryl for point this one out. The cloud pitches, webinars and conferences are getting so numerous that the noise is deafening. This is a vision to hold for IT as we need to enable some amazing innovation in the way we live on this planet.

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