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	<title>Comments on: Key Points Around Spigit&#8217;s Idea Marketplace Offering</title>
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		<title>By: Think Companies Can Do More with Ideas? Me Too - I&#8217;m Joining Spigit &#171; I&#8217;m Not Actually a Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Companies Can Do More with Ideas? Me Too - I&#8217;m Joining Spigit &#171; I&#8217;m Not Actually a Geek</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] This past December, Gartner&#8217;s Anthony Bradley wrote up his thoughts about Spigit. He noted five key [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark. Definitiely some interesting points here. Idea generation and idea execution definitely are not the same. They are different activities requiring different actions by stakeholders. No tool can create innovation. Culture, management, etc. will always play a pivotal role. Web 2.0 social tools have begun addressing idea generation but have yet only barely scratched the surface of idea execution. That indeed may take five years time to mature.

However, I think many, including me, would argue that social software tools are having and will continue to have a significant and successful impact on idea generation. There are numerous examples of success we can now point to (e.g., IBM idea jam, threadless, Staples, Google, Intel). As with any relatively new approach there will be numerous organizations that make mistakes and fail. I&#039;ve seen many bad practices and have docmented some in this blog and many more in my published research. However, the &quot;age of the community&quot; is upon us and bottom up is gaining momentum. It is always easier to implement grass roots innovation vs. top down because at least a portion of those who will be impacted by the change are already involved in the movement. The more people we can get positively involved early, the better chance change has of sticking. Though idea generation and execution are distinct they certainly are not unrelated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark. Definitiely some interesting points here. Idea generation and idea execution definitely are not the same. They are different activities requiring different actions by stakeholders. No tool can create innovation. Culture, management, etc. will always play a pivotal role. Web 2.0 social tools have begun addressing idea generation but have yet only barely scratched the surface of idea execution. That indeed may take five years time to mature.</p>
<p>However, I think many, including me, would argue that social software tools are having and will continue to have a significant and successful impact on idea generation. There are numerous examples of success we can now point to (e.g., IBM idea jam, threadless, Staples, Google, Intel). As with any relatively new approach there will be numerous organizations that make mistakes and fail. I&#8217;ve seen many bad practices and have docmented some in this blog and many more in my published research. However, the &#8220;age of the community&#8221; is upon us and bottom up is gaining momentum. It is always easier to implement grass roots innovation vs. top down because at least a portion of those who will be impacted by the change are already involved in the movement. The more people we can get positively involved early, the better chance change has of sticking. Though idea generation and execution are distinct they certainly are not unrelated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Turrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Turrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a practioner in this area for the last ten years, and actually implementing real systems at massive scale (as opposed to being a start-up with interesting software), there are several practical concerns with the bottom-up approach to ideas and innovation management.

Just to focus on one area. Innovation is about implementing ideas, not just about generating them. There is a huge distinction between ideation (idea generation) and scale-up and execution. To make this scale-up work, you need to actively and deeply engage management and put in real resources.

These bottom-up approaches - and the bottom-up tools promoted by the simple web 2.0 vendors in this area - by and large lead to a train wreck of ideas hitting the mid-layer in the organization, leading to dissatisfaction of the submitters, and potentially damaging the organization&#039;s innovation climate.

Now, within five to ten years this type of approach will become more normal as people age, and as the tools and methods mature. There is a long time, though, between today and five years time - start-ups tend not to last that long.

Just some thoughts - Mark Turrell, CEO, Imaginatik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a practioner in this area for the last ten years, and actually implementing real systems at massive scale (as opposed to being a start-up with interesting software), there are several practical concerns with the bottom-up approach to ideas and innovation management.</p>
<p>Just to focus on one area. Innovation is about implementing ideas, not just about generating them. There is a huge distinction between ideation (idea generation) and scale-up and execution. To make this scale-up work, you need to actively and deeply engage management and put in real resources.</p>
<p>These bottom-up approaches &#8211; and the bottom-up tools promoted by the simple web 2.0 vendors in this area &#8211; by and large lead to a train wreck of ideas hitting the mid-layer in the organization, leading to dissatisfaction of the submitters, and potentially damaging the organization&#8217;s innovation climate.</p>
<p>Now, within five to ten years this type of approach will become more normal as people age, and as the tools and methods mature. There is a long time, though, between today and five years time &#8211; start-ups tend not to last that long.</p>
<p>Just some thoughts &#8211; Mark Turrell, CEO, Imaginatik</p>
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