Comments on: More on ERP and MDM – apples and oranges? http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:59:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Krithivasan http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-94 Krithivasan Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:15:25 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-94 Hi Andrew, MDM is still in evolving stages and companies now only start looking at MDM for managing their Master Data. But implementing MDM is not a one time process, as this acts as a hub for master data. Data continously flow IN & OUT of this hub. The Incoming data needs to be cleansed to ensure Data Quality. So MDM is a long journey - please visit the following blog & give your comments: http://www.infosysblogs.com/oracle/2009/03/master_data_management_a_lifel.html Hi Andrew,

MDM is still in evolving stages and companies now only start looking at MDM for managing their Master Data. But implementing MDM is not a one time process, as this acts as a hub for master data. Data continously flow IN & OUT of this hub. The Incoming data needs to be cleansed to ensure Data Quality. So MDM is a long journey – please visit the following blog & give your comments: http://www.infosysblogs.com/oracle/2009/03/master_data_management_a_lifel.html

]]> By: Amit Jha http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-74 Amit Jha Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:33:23 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-74 Hi Andrew , This one made an interesting reading for me ! I would like to add few things besides what has already been said . I guess driver for MDM is not just ensuring that data is shared across application . What one also need to think about if that data is complete and devoid of any data quality issues and not causing any business process disruption and poor decision making . While working with a large hi-tech manufacturing company in the US i encountered 10 instances of the supplier name being maintained in the same system and often with junk and illegal values bcoz of lack of processes, to name a few . This is where MDM can possibly help even in a single ERP scenario,to ensure that data policies and management processes are in place . Hi Andrew ,

This one made an interesting reading for me ! I would like to add few things besides what has already been said . I guess driver for MDM is not just ensuring that data is shared across application . What one also need to think about if that data is complete and devoid of any data quality issues and not causing any business process disruption and poor decision making . While working with a large hi-tech manufacturing company in the US i encountered 10 instances of the supplier name being maintained in the same system and often with junk and illegal values bcoz of lack of processes, to name a few . This is where MDM can possibly help even in a single ERP scenario,to ensure that data policies and management processes are in place .

]]> By: MDM and the Information Architecture « (Master) Reference Data Management http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-54 MDM and the Information Architecture « (Master) Reference Data Management Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:48:27 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-54 [...] there is an article on ERP vs. MDM (ERP and MDM) that discusses the seperate data models (and requirements) [...] [...] there is an article on ERP vs. MDM (ERP and MDM) that discusses the seperate data models (and requirements) [...]

]]> By: Andrew White http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Andrew White Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:37:06 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-47 Thanks for the comment. I would agree that, if the bulk of a business is able to run its transactions in one instance of ERP, it might not need a separate effort called MDM. The implication being that if all the data was centralized then MDM (as a discipline) would be supported by the processes modeled and managed in ERP. However, ERP never lived up to its promise: so few firms say that the bulk of their business is supported by one ERP. Only smaller firms are able to do this; most mid-size firms (and larger) end up with multiple systems of records since ERP was never quite "good enough" in the business applications and business intelligence arenas. The other complication is what do we mean by ERP? For some users, ERP is an application stack sharing one common data model and process model (not many of these around), and for others ERP is a strategy that results in, "buy everything from one vendor" which is a very different thing. Thanks for the comment.

I would agree that, if the bulk of a business is able to run its transactions in one instance of ERP, it might not need a separate effort called MDM. The implication being that if all the data was centralized then MDM (as a discipline) would be supported by the processes modeled and managed in ERP. However, ERP never lived up to its promise: so few firms say that the bulk of their business is supported by one ERP. Only smaller firms are able to do this; most mid-size firms (and larger) end up with multiple systems of records since ERP was never quite “good enough” in the business applications and business intelligence arenas.

The other complication is what do we mean by ERP? For some users, ERP is an application stack sharing one common data model and process model (not many of these around), and for others ERP is a strategy that results in, “buy everything from one vendor” which is a very different thing.

]]> By: A. Osman http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-45 A. Osman Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:22:18 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-45 There is a place for MDM, especially when companies have a number of key systems that are disparate, but shares common master data such as Customers and product items. In some cases, a Master item may have a complex process such as additional info gathering, approvals, routing etc. I would however not see the need for an MDM when the bulk of a companies transactions actually run on one ERP (the name of the ERP is not important.) There is a place for MDM, especially when companies have a number of key systems that are disparate, but shares common master data such as Customers and product items. In some cases, a Master item may have a complex process such as additional info gathering, approvals, routing etc.
I would however not see the need for an MDM when the bulk of a companies transactions actually run on one ERP (the name of the ERP is not important.)

]]> By: Andrew White http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Andrew White Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:53:06 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-41 Oops - sorry about that - fixed! Oops – sorry about that – fixed!

]]> By: Dan Power http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2009/01/28/more-on-erp-and-mdm-%e2%80%93-apples-and-oranges/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Dan Power Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:48:49 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/?p=151#comment-40 Hi Andrew, Great post as usual! Could you please correct the web site in the first paragraph? The company name is Hub Solution Designs, and the web site is http://www.hubdesigns.com. Thanks and best regards --- Dan Power Hi Andrew,

Great post as usual! Could you please correct the web site in the first paragraph? The company name is Hub Solution Designs, and the web site is http://www.hubdesigns.com.

Thanks and best regards — Dan Power

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