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	<title>Comments on: MDM and the Semantic Enterprise</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Schulte</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2008/12/12/mdm-and-the-semantic-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Schulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. The term &quot;rock solid&quot; is over-the-top.  I&#039;ll modify by point to say that until you&#039;ve got &#039;something going&#039; with MDM you should be careful setting expectations about using new technology to get you better information. (managing expectations is easier said than done)  So when I think of ontologies and the semantic web I would like to see if they can make MDM easier - - before building on a house of cards.

Kingsley - I had trouble getting to your last 2 links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. The term &#8220;rock solid&#8221; is over-the-top.  I&#8217;ll modify by point to say that until you&#8217;ve got &#8217;something going&#8217; with MDM you should be careful setting expectations about using new technology to get you better information. (managing expectations is easier said than done)  So when I think of ontologies and the semantic web I would like to see if they can make MDM easier &#8211; - before building on a house of cards.</p>
<p>Kingsley &#8211; I had trouble getting to your last 2 links.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew White</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2008/12/12/mdm-and-the-semantic-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can MDM ever be &quot;rock solid&quot;?  I talk with a lot of customers and I don&#039;t think that there are many examples of, &quot;rock solid&quot; MDM.  Most practical implementations make some great progress, but I think that the real world is limited to, &quot;get something going, as best as you can, and build from there&quot;.  Seems to me that MDM is a long, long journey; one we have been on for a long time even before we used the term, MDM.  However, your point overall makes a lot of sense to me overall: clean up the data before you start to take critical decisions based on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can MDM ever be &#8220;rock solid&#8221;?  I talk with a lot of customers and I don&#8217;t think that there are many examples of, &#8220;rock solid&#8221; MDM.  Most practical implementations make some great progress, but I think that the real world is limited to, &#8220;get something going, as best as you can, and build from there&#8221;.  Seems to me that MDM is a long, long journey; one we have been on for a long time even before we used the term, MDM.  However, your point overall makes a lot of sense to me overall: clean up the data before you start to take critical decisions based on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Schulte</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2008/12/12/mdm-and-the-semantic-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Schulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customer segmentation is certainly a good place to try to engage business management on the topic.  But, as you said in your blog, our big problem is still the money spent on &quot;coping with the fact that much of our data is messed up...&quot;.  Tuning and polishing customer segmentation can only happen when master data is rock solid.  Shouldn&#039;t we be thinking about how we can introduce ontology-based solutions into the fundamentals of the MDM practice as it is still a very difficult, labor-intensive and expensive undertaking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customer segmentation is certainly a good place to try to engage business management on the topic.  But, as you said in your blog, our big problem is still the money spent on &#8220;coping with the fact that much of our data is messed up&#8230;&#8221;.  Tuning and polishing customer segmentation can only happen when master data is rock solid.  Shouldn&#8217;t we be thinking about how we can introduce ontology-based solutions into the fundamentals of the MDM practice as it is still a very difficult, labor-intensive and expensive undertaking?</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2008/12/12/mdm-and-the-semantic-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

Two additional links in relation to MDM and RDF based Linked Data:

1. http://tinyurl.com/6a24ts - correction for last link in my earlier comment

2. http://tinyurl.com/6xerjd - a presentation of Linked Data that I gave at Linked Data Planet earlier this year.

Kingsley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>Two additional links in relation to MDM and RDF based Linked Data:</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6a24ts" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6a24ts</a> &#8211; correction for last link in my earlier comment</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6xerjd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6xerjd</a> &#8211; a presentation of Linked Data that I gave at Linked Data Planet earlier this year.</p>
<p>Kingsley</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gartner.com/andrew_white/2008/12/12/mdm-and-the-semantic-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

MDM (which is grounded on an Entity-Attribute-Value data model) is one of the fundamental areas of enterprise data &amp; information integration that benefits from technologies emerging from the &quot;Semantic Web&quot; vision realm.

For example, Let&#039;s take the emergent &quot;Linked Data&quot; meme which is centered on the ability to construct Entity IDs (or Object IDs) using HTTP. In the MDM scenario this means giving HTTP based IDs to each &quot;Customer&quot;, &quot;Order&quot;, &quot;Order Item&quot;, &quot;Employee&quot;, &quot;Product&quot;, &quot;Product Category&quot; etc.. And due to the inherent power and ubiquity of HTTP in networked environments (e.g. World Wide Web or Intranets) you are able to access Entitiy descriptions (i.e., de-reference the attributes and relationships graphs in different representations e.g. HTML). This also means simply integration of data across MDM solutions.

I&#039;ve been writing about some of these matters for a while and my blog contains a plethora of links to live examples such as:

1. http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linked_Data - showing the same principles using Wikipedia data via DBpedia project
2. http://demo.openlinksw.com/Northwind/Customer/ALFKI
3. http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso - Product Information Integration (another realm associated with MDM)
4. http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso - more detailed product release data .


Kingsley Idehen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>MDM (which is grounded on an Entity-Attribute-Value data model) is one of the fundamental areas of enterprise data &amp; information integration that benefits from technologies emerging from the &#8220;Semantic Web&#8221; vision realm.</p>
<p>For example, Let&#8217;s take the emergent &#8220;Linked Data&#8221; meme which is centered on the ability to construct Entity IDs (or Object IDs) using HTTP. In the MDM scenario this means giving HTTP based IDs to each &#8220;Customer&#8221;, &#8220;Order&#8221;, &#8220;Order Item&#8221;, &#8220;Employee&#8221;, &#8220;Product&#8221;, &#8220;Product Category&#8221; etc.. And due to the inherent power and ubiquity of HTTP in networked environments (e.g. World Wide Web or Intranets) you are able to access Entitiy descriptions (i.e., de-reference the attributes and relationships graphs in different representations e.g. HTML). This also means simply integration of data across MDM solutions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been writing about some of these matters for a while and my blog contains a plethora of links to live examples such as:</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linked_Data" rel="nofollow">http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linked_Data</a> &#8211; showing the same principles using Wikipedia data via DBpedia project<br />
2. <a href="http://demo.openlinksw.com/Northwind/Customer/ALFKI" rel="nofollow">http://demo.openlinksw.com/Northwind/Customer/ALFKI</a><br />
3. <a href="http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso" rel="nofollow">http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso</a> &#8211; Product Information Integration (another realm associated with MDM)<br />
4. <a href="http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso" rel="nofollow">http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso</a> &#8211; more detailed product release data .</p>
<p>Kingsley Idehen</p>
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