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	<title>Comments on: Government Must Pilot Somebody Else&#8217;s Community Before Building Its Own</title>
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		<title>By: Balancing the Risks of Open Government</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balancing the Risks of Open Government</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] red lines are those where governments have to let go, have to empower their employees to act as connection agents with external communities. By its nature, this looks like the riskiest part, although – I would argue – is also the most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] red lines are those where governments have to let go, have to empower their employees to act as connection agents with external communities. By its nature, this looks like the riskiest part, although – I would argue – is also the most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Di Maio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Di Maio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin: You hit the nail on the head. I can see few cases where government organuizations can lead on social media

@maricela. Agreed, this is not at all black and white, and I also appreciate that for organizations that provide consulting or products for collaboration solutions the idea that government clients should be &quot;piloting&quot; outside before spending any dollar is sort of unwelcome. However the examples you seem to allude to are Enterprise 2.0 while what I am talking about is Government 2.0. My contention is that before establishing externally-facing social media, most government organizations need to spend time figiring out the value from somebody else&#039;s solution. There will always be cases where - after doing so - the outcome is the establishment of an externally-facing enterprise solution, but assuming this can be planned upfront, without going through something like the SOCIAL franework, is not accurate. As to your point about people being busy, I always advise clients that if they do not have time to make an effort to understand what is already available out there, they&#039;d better do nothing.

@Anthony. I also like the term &quot;solution value&quot; but would also argue that the term &quot;solution&quot; has many nuances. Joining an external community and leveraging it for enterprise purposes can be indeed a solution.  As you know from previous conversations on our respective blogs, I believe that government organizations cannot articulate a fully fledged business case for a specific solution until when they&#039;ve gone through some form of intelligence work - such as the one suggested by the SOCIAL framework - that justifies the need and space for them to establish a community they run and drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin: You hit the nail on the head. I can see few cases where government organuizations can lead on social media</p>
<p>@maricela. Agreed, this is not at all black and white, and I also appreciate that for organizations that provide consulting or products for collaboration solutions the idea that government clients should be &#8220;piloting&#8221; outside before spending any dollar is sort of unwelcome. However the examples you seem to allude to are Enterprise 2.0 while what I am talking about is Government 2.0. My contention is that before establishing externally-facing social media, most government organizations need to spend time figiring out the value from somebody else&#8217;s solution. There will always be cases where &#8211; after doing so &#8211; the outcome is the establishment of an externally-facing enterprise solution, but assuming this can be planned upfront, without going through something like the SOCIAL franework, is not accurate. As to your point about people being busy, I always advise clients that if they do not have time to make an effort to understand what is already available out there, they&#8217;d better do nothing.</p>
<p>@Anthony. I also like the term &#8220;solution value&#8221; but would also argue that the term &#8220;solution&#8221; has many nuances. Joining an external community and leveraging it for enterprise purposes can be indeed a solution.  As you know from previous conversations on our respective blogs, I believe that government organizations cannot articulate a fully fledged business case for a specific solution until when they&#8217;ve gone through some form of intelligence work &#8211; such as the one suggested by the SOCIAL framework &#8211; that justifies the need and space for them to establish a community they run and drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is that often, under the guise of a &quot;pilot&quot; the organization (government or otherwise) often does not employ the rigor to really identify and achieve &quot;solution value&quot; (which I like as a term) or truly explore and deliver a &quot;what&#039;s in it for the community participants&quot; experience. You can call it a pilot if you like as long as it is real whether the solution is in your own social environment or a third party&#039;s. Also, if you go at it for real and it spans the entire organization, how exactly is it a pilot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that often, under the guise of a &#8220;pilot&#8221; the organization (government or otherwise) often does not employ the rigor to really identify and achieve &#8220;solution value&#8221; (which I like as a term) or truly explore and deliver a &#8220;what&#8217;s in it for the community participants&#8221; experience. You can call it a pilot if you like as long as it is real whether the solution is in your own social environment or a third party&#8217;s. Also, if you go at it for real and it spans the entire organization, how exactly is it a pilot?</p>
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		<title>By: maricela morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>maricela morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for blogging on this.

Having been at this game for a while supporting projects under regulated environments, but also working on social and healthcare services, I have found out that this is not so black and white.

First, pilot doesn&#039;t mean only a sector of an organization. I know of companies with tens of thousands of employees who have piloted E 2.0 initiatives across all the company.  I also believe that organizational dynamics tremendously impact a project and those dynamics are so varied between entities that it is like DNA fingerprinting.  Thus, piloting someone elses anything might not reflect the &quot;people and processes&quot; challenges a given entity or organization might follow.

Finally, but more importantly, people are really busy and don&#039;t participate just because.  We focus on what we call Solution Value and work hard at what would motivate people to participate since most do not want to collaborate or contribute just because (we even created a list of why people collaborate).  I fear that pretending this is a black and white subject falls under the same hype that I see at the enterprise side of the business that one solution fits all. When it comes to trying to achieve specific outcomes it is imperative to see if that outcome&#039;s value is greater than the effort to get there as well as great enough to engage key stakeholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for blogging on this.</p>
<p>Having been at this game for a while supporting projects under regulated environments, but also working on social and healthcare services, I have found out that this is not so black and white.</p>
<p>First, pilot doesn&#8217;t mean only a sector of an organization. I know of companies with tens of thousands of employees who have piloted E 2.0 initiatives across all the company.  I also believe that organizational dynamics tremendously impact a project and those dynamics are so varied between entities that it is like DNA fingerprinting.  Thus, piloting someone elses anything might not reflect the &#8220;people and processes&#8221; challenges a given entity or organization might follow.</p>
<p>Finally, but more importantly, people are really busy and don&#8217;t participate just because.  We focus on what we call Solution Value and work hard at what would motivate people to participate since most do not want to collaborate or contribute just because (we even created a list of why people collaborate).  I fear that pretending this is a black and white subject falls under the same hype that I see at the enterprise side of the business that one solution fits all. When it comes to trying to achieve specific outcomes it is imperative to see if that outcome&#8217;s value is greater than the effort to get there as well as great enough to engage key stakeholders.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin C. Houk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin C. Houk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree with your points on this.  I have seen many officials make the fatal mistake of thinking &#039;if we build it they will come&#039; while ignoring, undervaluing, or outright competing with significant community building efforts that are well established and loved by members.

The fundamental shift that I think you are calling out here is that we as individuals working in government need to identify as a part of the community and contribute in much the same way as anyone would.  The idea that that you can &#039;pilot&#039; a community gets more outmoded on a daily basis.  Some public segments are moving faster than government at adopting social tools for community building and may be much more effective at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree with your points on this.  I have seen many officials make the fatal mistake of thinking &#8216;if we build it they will come&#8217; while ignoring, undervaluing, or outright competing with significant community building efforts that are well established and loved by members.</p>
<p>The fundamental shift that I think you are calling out here is that we as individuals working in government need to identify as a part of the community and contribute in much the same way as anyone would.  The idea that that you can &#8216;pilot&#8217; a community gets more outmoded on a daily basis.  Some public segments are moving faster than government at adopting social tools for community building and may be much more effective at it.</p>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Brian Ahier and Andrea DiMaio, molly. molly said: Mixed reaction here, but it is topical: Govt Must Pilot Somebody Else&#039;s Community Before... http://bit.ly/4mfS40 #gov20 via @AndreaDiMaio [...]</description>
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