Comments on: Why North Americans Will Get Government 2.0 and Europeans Won’t http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:26:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Why the EU Keeps Failing on E-Government http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-4009 Why the EU Keeps Failing on E-Government Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:54:54 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-4009 [...] why are we surprised if Europe lags behind in so many areas? [...] [...] why are we surprised if Europe lags behind in so many areas? [...]

]]> By: France tries new avenues to build Government 2020 vision, but stops half-way through http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2750 France tries new avenues to build Government 2020 vision, but stops half-way through Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:48:02 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2750 [...] also proves, once again, how far behind Europe is on all this. But – for sure – French are much better off than some of their colleagues elsewhere: at [...] [...] also proves, once again, how far behind Europe is on all this. But – for sure – French are much better off than some of their colleagues elsewhere: at [...]

]]> By: Brian Ahier (ahier) 's status on Sunday, 01-Nov-09 16:48:26 UTC - Identi.ca http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2253 Brian Ahier (ahier) 's status on Sunday, 01-Nov-09 16:48:26 UTC - Identi.ca Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:48:34 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2253 [...] http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-e... a few seconds ago from web [...] [...] http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-e... a few seconds ago from web [...]

]]> By: Jeffrey Peel http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2236 Jeffrey Peel Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:02:11 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2236 I think many of the points you make are valid. At the Government 2010 event just over a week ago one central government delegate made clear to me during the coffee break that senior management in her department was a significant stumbling block to change. To an extent Gov2.0 is seen as trendy, troublesome nonsense to many in government. Too often they pay merely lip service to it. However, I think there is a head of steam building - problem is, it's still somewhat undefined as to what people want to achieve. I think many of the points you make are valid. At the Government 2010 event just over a week ago one central government delegate made clear to me during the coffee break that senior management in her department was a significant stumbling block to change. To an extent Gov2.0 is seen as trendy, troublesome nonsense to many in government. Too often they pay merely lip service to it. However, I think there is a head of steam building – problem is, it’s still somewhat undefined as to what people want to achieve.

]]> By: Todd Eurick http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2235 Todd Eurick Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:00:23 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2235 They just take a very different approach. Instead of trying to open up the government a little bit by allowing citizens to peek inside, they are building a way for the citizens to be the government. Case in point: the Metagovernment is largely a European effort. http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Main_Page They just take a very different approach. Instead of trying to open up the government a little bit by allowing citizens to peek inside, they are building a way for the citizens to be the government. Case in point: the Metagovernment is largely a European effort.
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Main_Page

]]> By: Davied http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2233 Davied Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:44:36 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2233 Funny, I had the same experience in Brussels, but the other way around of course: I found EU officials to be more careful and closed than my colleagues in the Netherlands. See the blog I wrote about it: http://twurl.nl/4mt60c However, I'm not convinced that it will be easier in the US than in the EU to bring about government 2.0. Though I probably didn't talk to as many Americans as you have, I got the impression when I was in Washington that it's mainly the communication departments that are starting to experiment with 2.0 tools. However, most policy officials continue to work as they always have. But that's where the breakthrough will have to take place. Are US government organizations less top down than European ones? I wonder. Funny, I had the same experience in Brussels, but the other way around of course: I found EU officials to be more careful and closed than my colleagues in the Netherlands. See the blog I wrote about it: http://twurl.nl/4mt60c

However, I’m not convinced that it will be easier in the US than in the EU to bring about government 2.0. Though I probably didn’t talk to as many Americans as you have, I got the impression when I was in Washington that it’s mainly the communication departments that are starting to experiment with 2.0 tools. However, most policy officials continue to work as they always have. But that’s where the breakthrough will have to take place.

Are US government organizations less top down than European ones? I wonder.

]]> By: hjuk http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2231 hjuk Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:35:13 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2231 Useful. By the way, where do Brits come in this? PS: Thanks fro your blog. Please don't stop writing! Useful. By the way, where do Brits come in this?

PS: Thanks fro your blog. Please don’t stop writing!

]]> By: Graham Colclough http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2230 Graham Colclough Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:31:36 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2230 You make very valid obsevations Andrea. It goes much beyond just Gov2.0 however, as you will know. It's deep seated in the values and culture of society. What it means to be American, or Canadian (starkly different, particularly around public services and Govt), or any other nationality for that matter. The end result of course is not always favourable as a result. My guess is you probably met many of the more open and willing. There are also many progressive ones in Europe too. They need full support in making a difference, coz underlying it all your observation quite rightly puts a valid challenge to Europe. You make very valid obsevations Andrea. It goes much beyond just Gov2.0 however, as you will know. It’s deep seated in the values and culture of society. What it means to be American, or Canadian (starkly different, particularly around public services and Govt), or any other nationality for that matter. The end result of course is not always favourable as a result.
My guess is you probably met many of the more open and willing. There are also many progressive ones in Europe too. They need full support in making a difference, coz underlying it all your observation quite rightly puts a valid challenge to Europe.

]]> By: J. Ignacio Familiar http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/comment-page-1/#comment-2227 J. Ignacio Familiar Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:43:45 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/30/why-north-americans-will-get-government-2-0-and-europeans-wont/#comment-2227 In Spain it is common to regard public employees as more of a barrier than an opportunity. I think that's why the most advanced people have enthusiastically embraced O'Reilly's concept of government as a platform: they want citizens to do what they do not require public employees. An error, citizens can not and don't want to take on these tasks. Or they change the focus, or as you say, the failure of projects is assured. In Spain it is common to regard public employees as more of a barrier than an opportunity. I think that’s why the most advanced people have enthusiastically embraced O’Reilly’s concept of government as a platform: they want citizens to do what they do not require public employees. An error, citizens can not and don’t want to take on these tasks. Or they change the focus, or as you say, the failure of projects is assured.

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