Comments on: Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/ A member of the Gartner Blog Network Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:26:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Andrea Di Maio http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-2034 Andrea Di Maio Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:15:14 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-2034 @Stephan - Thanks a lot for sharing your views. The point I am trying to make is that as web 2.0 is basically a peer-to-peer phenomenon, it is difficult for organizations to play an institutional role. For instance, if you have a community of individuals discussing - say - welfare issues, you cannot have, as a member of that group, an entire government agency, but you ned to have individuals from that agency. I agree with you when you say that Gov 2.0 is about how govt can work differently, but this difference is mostly based on the empowerment of public employees as opposed to a top-down transformation (such as those attempted with e-government). The reason why government organizations struggle so much to devise effective social media strategies is exactly the inextricable link between government objectives and its organization. However, as most innovation stories happened inside government clearly show, there is ample room for maneuver for grass root innovation from empowered employees within the boundaries of policies and codes of conduct. This is a topic that I have covered several times in this blog: take a look at posts tagged as "employee-centric". @Stephan – Thanks a lot for sharing your views. The point I am trying to make is that as web 2.0 is basically a peer-to-peer phenomenon, it is difficult for organizations to play an institutional role. For instance, if you have a community of individuals discussing – say – welfare issues, you cannot have, as a member of that group, an entire government agency, but you ned to have individuals from that agency.
I agree with you when you say that Gov 2.0 is about how govt can work differently, but this difference is mostly based on the empowerment of public employees as opposed to a top-down transformation (such as those attempted with e-government).
The reason why government organizations struggle so much to devise effective social media strategies is exactly the inextricable link between government objectives and its organization. However, as most innovation stories happened inside government clearly show, there is ample room for maneuver for grass root innovation from empowered employees within the boundaries of policies and codes of conduct. This is a topic that I have covered several times in this blog: take a look at posts tagged as “employee-centric”.

]]> By: Stephan Borau http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-2024 Stephan Borau Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:01:57 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-2024 I'm not quite sure what point is being made... but I'm pretty sure it isn't quite right. Saying Gov 2.0 is not about government is like saying Web 2.0 is not about the Web. In a sense it's not -- it's about collaboration and user-generated content -- but that behaviour wouldn't exist without the technological infrastructure. Gov 2.0 is being used to describe how gov't itself can work differently, both as an organization and with how it interacts witht the public as a public service and a legislative institution (many public servants are hopeful this will lead to a better ways of working). However, the behaviour of gov't is carried out in the context of its organizations and institutions. You can't separate the two, any more than you can have Facebook or Wikipedia without an internet. I’m not quite sure what point is being made… but I’m pretty sure it isn’t quite right. Saying Gov 2.0 is not about government is like saying Web 2.0 is not about the Web. In a sense it’s not — it’s about collaboration and user-generated content — but that behaviour wouldn’t exist without the technological infrastructure.

Gov 2.0 is being used to describe how gov’t itself can work differently, both as an organization and with how it interacts witht the public as a public service and a legislative institution (many public servants are hopeful this will lead to a better ways of working).

However, the behaviour of gov’t is carried out in the context of its organizations and institutions. You can’t separate the two, any more than you can have Facebook or Wikipedia without an internet.

]]> By: Why Government 2.0 “Has Little To Do With Government” | Networked Neighbourhoods http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1922 Why Government 2.0 “Has Little To Do With Government” | Networked Neighbourhoods Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:12:34 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-1922 [...] Writing on the Gartner blog network this week, Andrea Di Maio, explained that we need to rethink our perspective on Government 2.0: The problem is that government 2.0 is not about organizations and institutions. It is about the way in which constituents aggregate and socialize knowledge in ways that change their expectations and how they relate to government institutions. [...] [...] Writing on the Gartner blog network this week, Andrea Di Maio, explained that we need to rethink our perspective on Government 2.0: The problem is that government 2.0 is not about organizations and institutions. It is about the way in which constituents aggregate and socialize knowledge in ways that change their expectations and how they relate to government institutions. [...]

]]> By: Social Media Cannot Deliver Business Value If Employees Are Denied Access http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1907 Social Media Cannot Deliver Business Value If Employees Are Denied Access Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:50:07 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-1907 [...] that key to unlock the benefits of web 2.0 is to understand its peer-to-peer nature (see my latest post on [...] [...] that key to unlock the benefits of web 2.0 is to understand its peer-to-peer nature (see my latest post on [...]

]]> By: ¿Quiénes harán el Open Government, dirigentes y políticos? http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1903 ¿Quiénes harán el Open Government, dirigentes y políticos? Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:09:23 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-1903 [...] De momento, y en honor a la realidad, la mayor parte de los ciudadanos no esperan que se abran los causes, así que a esperar la factura de tanto pelotero que menean la bandera de la innovación (aún más estética que profunda) a la que se coronan en facebook, tuenti y twiter por parte de técnicos, profesionales, políticos y demás dirigentes. [...] [...] De momento, y en honor a la realidad, la mayor parte de los ciudadanos no esperan que se abran los causes, así que a esperar la factura de tanto pelotero que menean la bandera de la innovación (aún más estética que profunda) a la que se coronan en facebook, tuenti y twiter por parte de técnicos, profesionales, políticos y demás dirigentes. [...]

]]> By: Links for 2009-10-06 [del.icio.us] | Trinitude Network http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1898 Links for 2009-10-06 [del.icio.us] | Trinitude Network Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:09:47 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-1898 [...] Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government RT @hebsgaard Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government #gov20 http://tinyurl.com/ycyrm5c [from http://twitter.com/dhinchcliffe/statuses/4653102431] [...] [...] Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government RT @hebsgaard Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government #gov20 http://tinyurl.com/ycyrm5c [from http://twitter.com/dhinchcliffe/statuses/4653102431 [...]

]]> By: Interesting elsewhere – 5 to 7 October 2009 | Public Strategist http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1892 Interesting elsewhere – 5 to 7 October 2009 | Public Strategist Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:48:28 +0000 http://blogs.gartner.com/andrea_dimaio/2009/10/06/why-government-2-0-has-little-to-do-with-government/#comment-1892 [...] Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government – Andrea di Maio [...] [...] Why Government 2.0 Has Little To Do With Government – Andrea di Maio [...]

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